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by zullil
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: The Busted Dutch
Replies: 89
Views: 2587

Re: The Busted Dutch

Ovyron wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:58 pm

Some key positions in the Dutch are an example, where Stockfish claims black has a big -1.00 advantage, when in reality it's white that does (though not enough to win...)
Let me guess, you can't give even one example.
by zullil
Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Test Position
Replies: 6
Views: 191

Re: Test Position

Lc0 (network T40B.1-106) with 100M nodes: Nodes: 100M, N/s: 32.9k, Time: 50m 36s (limit met) 61.2% Qb4 a3 Qxc3+ bxc3 dxe3 Bd3 exf2+ Kxf2 Nbd7 Re1 Ne5 Kg1 Be6 Nd4 Nfd7 Nxe6 fxe6 Be2 Nc5 g3 Nxe4 Bg4 Nc5 Rf1 Bf6 h4 h5 Bh3 Kf7 Qe2 Rac8 a4 b6 Kh1 Rc7 a5 bxa5 Rxa5 Rfc8 Kg2 Rb8 Rb5 Ra8 Ra5 Rb8 Rb5 Rh8 Rfb1...
by zullil
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF
Replies: 105
Views: 10174

Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

jp wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:55 am
jp wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:08 pm
After Lc0's 72... Rxa7, the position is
8/r2k4/3P4/4PK2/1P3P2/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
which is a tablebase draw.
Afterwards, I saw tbhits 2177196. Obviously not 7-man then. :wink:
Was it 5-man TBs?
6-man Syzygy tables.
by zullil
Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:20 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Test Position
Replies: 6
Views: 191

Test Position

rnb2rk1/pp2ppbp/3p1np1/q7/2PpP3/1NN1B2P/PP3PP1/R2QKB1R b KQ - 1 9 Karthikeyan played 9...Qxc3+. Which engines find this move? (Or 9...Qb4 10. a3 Qxc3+) Is it truly winning? I found this at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lczero/NzoB1STgfc8 Here's the game: [Event "Asian Continental"] [Site ...
by zullil
Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: The Busted Dutch
Replies: 89
Views: 2587

Re: The Busted Dutch

Because setting up the engine and clicking a button so it analyzes a position requires SO MUCH time and energy :roll: Because I misunderstood your claim. I thought you were claiming that, from the position we started at, you could achieve an advantageous position due to your private analysis and we...
by zullil
Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: The Busted Dutch
Replies: 89
Views: 2587

Re: The Busted Dutch

Given your claim "I have no problems beating people that just let Stockfish reach high depth and play their move against me" Ah, but my claim was from the beginning of the game. Here you just jump-started from a position played by someone with access to a bookline from no other than sarona (someone...
by zullil
Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: The Busted Dutch
Replies: 89
Views: 2587

Re: The Busted Dutch

I have played 10. dxc5 on there. I predict that unassisted Stockfish-dev will play Qxc5 here. I also predict that you'll see some negative evaluation (that is, Stockfish-dev will think it has the advantage as black) at some point. I finally predict that we'll see Stockfish deviate and play some dum...
by zullil
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Draws are getting cheaper, are 15W enough?
Replies: 20
Views: 844

Re: Draws are getting cheaper, are 15W enough?

Ozymandias wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:42 am
The draw rate keeps rising, and it's been years since anybody at the top even lost a game.
...
And yet, people insist that the draw death of chess isn't here.
Just unplug your computer, and actually play chess. Problem solved. :twisted:
by zullil
Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:16 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: The Busted Dutch
Replies: 89
Views: 2587

Re: The Busted Dutch

We can start from here, if you are interested, which Stockfish-dev says is basically even Sure, we can fork the game. You can pretend that I'm playing my game against your Stockfish-dev and just copy the moves until your Stockfish-dev deviates from my opponent's play (my opponent played 9...O-O, so...
by zullil
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: The Busted Dutch
Replies: 89
Views: 2587

Re: The Busted Dutch

We can start from here, if you are interested, which Stockfish-dev says is basically even Sure, we can fork the game. You can pretend that I'm playing my game against your Stockfish-dev and just copy the moves until your Stockfish-dev deviates from my opponent's play (my opponent played 9...O-O, so...