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by Master Om
Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:10 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Qxf6 is clearly better move. Can't imagine the engine would ever lose or draw after Bxa7. Though Qxf6 might save some energy, I suppose. :D Thats why we called it "best" not good or better :D But in your initial post you used "fails". Not sure that finding a move that always wins is a failure. :win...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Qxf6 is clearly better move. Can't imagine the engine would ever lose or draw after Bxa7. Though Qxf6 might save some energy, I suppose. :D Thats why we called it "best" not good or better :D But in your initial post you used "fails". Not sure that finding a move that always wins is a failure. :win...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Also can u provide the links u mentioned above ? https://github.com/joergoster/Stockfish/tree/nnue_always https://github.com/syzygy1/Cfish/ Of Cfish you'll have to build your own compile of the latest version, releases are from July only. https://github.com/amchess/ShashChess/releases/tag/13.1 http...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

zullil wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:23 pm
Master Om wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:53 pm

Qxf6 is clearly better move.
Can't imagine the engine would ever lose or draw after Bxa7.

Though Qxf6 might save some energy, I suppose. :D
Thats why we called it "best" not good or better :D
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Not sure "fails" is the right word here. For example, in the first posted position, it seems that Bxa7 is hardly failing: info depth 54 seldepth 69 multipv 1 score cp 548 nodes 85074237208 nps 30965621 hashfull 1000 tbhits 3333976 time 2747377 pv b8a7 c6e4 d3e4 e6e5 f1a1 b5b4 f3e3 b7b5 b3a4 b4c4 g2...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Ranked second on Pohl's list: https://www.sp-cc.de/files/ergebnisse_nnue_schnell.txt With the latest SFNNUE it fails with that net too to find the key move. Something wrong in new SFNNUE. It's the hybrid- eval- üatch from end of July, not the net. Try one of July, if not the very latest one, or one...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:49 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Dann Corbit wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:17 pm
Ranked second on Pohl's list:
https://www.sp-cc.de/files/ergebnisse_nnue_schnell.txt
With the latest SFNNUE it fails with that net too to find the key move. Something wrong in new SFNNUE.
by Master Om
Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

If you choose the right net, you can solve anything, but what happens when you use the standard net that comes with the tool? Supposedly, it should be the best net. Yes. I used the abrok net what comes with it. It struggled. But SV 1056 net found it... [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Ro...
by Master Om
Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 27
Views: 5020

SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

New game Line [D]1B1r4/rp2npkp/2b1pbp1/1qp5/nPN1R3/1P1P1QP1/2P2PBP/5R1K w - - 0 1 Analysis by SF+NNUE PO 290720 x64 avx2: 1.Bxa7 Bxe4 2.dxe4 e5 3.bxc5 Nxc5 4.Qe3 Nd7 5.Bh3 Nc6 6.Rd1 Nd4 7.Bxd7 Rxd7 8.Qd3 Re7 9.Kg2 Qc6 10.h4 h5 11.Nxe5 Rxe5 12.Bxd4 Rxe4 13.Bxf6+ Kxf6 14.Qf3+ Ke6 15.Rd3 Re5 16.c4 Qxf3...
by Master Om
Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:47 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Kai Laskos positional testing
Replies: 5
Views: 1144

Re: Kai Laskos positional testing

Thank you! Very interesting. What is the numerical spread between the top 4? From memory, 10s / position. Lc0 far ahead with 160, then SF NNUE -- 140, SF classical -- 130, Komodo 14 -- 120, Andscacs 0.95 -- 100. GPU favoring PC, RTX 2070, but only 4 core i7 3.8 GHz. Which net of Lc0 and NNUE SF ?