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by syzygy
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: How to make SF10 work for Arena 1.1 on the Raspberry Pi?
Replies: 10
Views: 259

Re: How to make SF10 work for Arena 1.1 on the Raspberry Pi?

Nordlandia wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:09 am
Is that the latest version 3?

I wounder if that speed makes it possible for top GMs to play against SF, without odds.
It probably beats Borislav's Ivanonv's shoes from 2012/13.
by syzygy
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: 7-men Syzygy attempt
Replies: 579
Views: 93761

Re: 7-men Syzygy attempt

One of the issues re Fathom and the CFish 7-man code is that the latter assumes you have a full legal move generator available - of course CFish has that, but it is GPL and I'd like to keep Fathom more permissively licensed, plus not all engines have/need/want a Stockfish-style movegen. So that imp...
by syzygy
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: Training the trainer: how is it done for Stockfish?
Replies: 22
Views: 1323

Re: Training the trainer: how is it done for Stockfish?

Comparing n-man to n+1 man, does n+1 man have a higher share of moves that don't worsen the outcome? Assuming we're considering that as the definition of a mistake, rather than having an opponent that can actually exploit the mistake. I would say: compared with positions with n men, positions with ...
by syzygy
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:08 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: Training the trainer: how is it done for Stockfish?
Replies: 22
Views: 1323

Re: Training the trainer: how is it done for Stockfish?

When these positions arise in the middle game, Leela will often miss the correct continuation, just like it does in the endgame. The question then becomes "are positions that require extremely precise play equally likely to arise in the middle game as they are in the endgame?" I believe the answer ...
by syzygy
Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:06 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Will TCEC need to rewrite their rules?
Replies: 11
Views: 943

Re: Will TCEC need to rewrite their rules?

Not interested in using this thread to defend Allie, but want to point out that any future rules you might come up with should account for the fact that Ethereal, Arasan, and Lc0 (probably a lot more?) are all using mostly the exact same (very important) code that was originally ported from Stockfi...
by syzygy
Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: Testing the implementation of Syzygy
Replies: 1
Views: 255

Re: Testing the implementation of Syzygy

First make sure that probing TB positions returns the correct results (e.g. by comparing with what SF returns when given the 'd' command). Once that works, you could try some of the "Longest phases" positions you can find at https://syzygy-tables.info/ by setting up a position with the material you ...
by syzygy
Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: Training the trainer: how is it done for Stockfish?
Replies: 22
Views: 1323

Re: Training the trainer: how is it done for Stockfish?

Several people are already trying (I am not one of them). As you can appreciate, writing a competitive chess engine is not a trivial exercise (although relatively straightforward these days compared to say 20 years ago). Combining two very different engine architectures is even more difficult. Inci...
by syzygy
Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: 2950x SMT ON and SMT OFF
Replies: 13
Views: 822

Re: 2950x SMT ON and SMT OFF

Just a quick and dirty example of the speed up of using SMT ON 16 Cores + 32 threads vs. SMT Off + 16 Cores + 16 Threads SMT On: NPS 32702 39.9% better then SMT Off. SMT On: Time to depth 238s 19.3% better then SMT Off Time to depth is the real performance increase, and why you should never use NPS...
by syzygy
Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!
Replies: 118
Views: 12106

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Like another user pointed out, "How are we sure we are playing against chess engine and not the games database? And when does the multimillion game database end and the chess engine begin ?" The answer is: by understanding what Leela does. (Or, if one does not have the time or inclination to study ...
by syzygy
Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!
Replies: 118
Views: 12106

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

... There is no any "spectacular" and there is no any "plan" on the side of Leela. In reality the position after 19.-c4 and the good continuation is in the 32930net of Leela. To prove this I used the weak GTX 1060 to find the 20.Bg6 move. From net30100 to net32000 Leela want to move 20.Be4, 20.Bxc4...