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Leo wrote: ↑

Wed May 15, 2019 2:22 pm

SF has a chance if LZ throughs away some games like it did last time.

So, that means no chance then because Leela has been very solid so far in this SuFi.

LC0 engine does have a search, but we are discussing here the outputs of the neural network itself without search (you can get LC0 to do this with the command nodes=0). Some people are claiming that the network output without search is 2400 or whatever, or they know somebody who knows somebody who ...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know starting from T50, there's another experiment that enables Lc0 to dynamically use different visit counts depending on the complexity of each positions. Visit=10000 is the upper bound, lc0 might use as low as 1 visit on a position but the average visit i...

NN 51010 has had 559441 games. The NN size is smaller (10x128) than the A0 one and 41xxx NNs (20x256), but the training param is visits=10000 (visits=800 for 41xxx). I'll let others say what 2080 time that works out to. I will try to estimate (writing on the phone, I am on a vacation :) ). About 0....

NN 51010 has had 559441 games. The NN size is smaller (10x128) than the A0 one and 41xxx NNs (20x256), but the training param is visits=10000 (visits=800 for 41xxx). I'll let others say what 2080 time that works out to. I will try to estimate (writing on the phone, I am on a vacation :) ). About 0....

The situation has now become even more dramatic. I tested version 51058 (on my RTX 2080), which is self-rated slightly below 1700, against Fire 7.1 on 4 very fast threads, which is rated 2337 on CEGT blitz, 3425 CCRL blitz. The two day old Lc0 won by 12 to 8 (+70 elo), putting it over 3400 CEGT bli...

Over 3000 Elo at only half a million games? Wow, that's insane.

Actually it is pretty interesting how accurately NN mimick human play. The top GM's are generally incredibly good at positional play and understanding long term advantages to a position ... but they are extremely weak (compared to engines that is) tactically. Lc0 seems to be that way as well. No hu...

Someone already opened an issue and proposed a better conversion formula on Lc0 Github a few days ago.

https://github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/issues/728

I make sure I don’t have libprotobuf or protoc installed. The meson build will download the appropriate package for you. I had a pre-installed protoc in the sytem which was causing the problem. Changed it so that it won't find that and now it compiles. It looks like I get about 17knps using the lc0...