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by EvgeniyZh
Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:09 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

You claimed TPU is 180 TOPS, while it is 180 TFLOPS per pod of four TPU, thus your evaluation 4 times higher than it should be. From what I can find, Google seems to be calling a motherboard containing 4 ASICs a Cloud TPU, and a TPU pod is 64 Cloud TPUs. Yeah, well, per device with 4 TPUs. BTW, new...
by EvgeniyZh
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:34 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

You claimed TPU is 180 TOPS, while it is 180 TFLOPS per pod of four TPU, thus your evaluation 4 times higher than it should be. From what I can find, Google seems to be calling a motherboard containing 4 ASICs a Cloud TPU, and a TPU pod is 64 Cloud TPUs. The guy is just a cocky kiddo with a keyboar...
by EvgeniyZh
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:14 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

You claimed TPU is 180 TOPS, while it is 180 TFLOPS per pod of four TPU, thus your evaluation 4 times higher than it should be. From what I can find, Google seems to be calling a motherboard containing 4 ASICs a Cloud TPU, and a TPU pod is 64 Cloud TPUs. Yeah, well, per device with 4 TPUs. BTW, new...
by EvgeniyZh
Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:29 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

64 cores to 1 is not like 4096 to 64. Moreover even if it were, the dependency of strength of play vs TTD is also sublinear, and, certainly, is practically bounded. It is actually demonstrated in paper, page 7. Did you read it? Figure 2 is completely bogus. If wish Google actually cited that refere...
by EvgeniyZh
Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:25 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

Sorry kiddo, that empty boasting won't help much, your previous post clearly suggests you have no clue what TPU is, and have not read that seminal paper. You are welcom to find my paper when you learn google (dp) floating point for training. Why, I leave you to figure it out (that is pretty basic s...
by EvgeniyZh
Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:39 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

64 cores to 1 is not like 4096 to 64. Moreover even if it were, the dependency of strength of play vs TTD is also sublinear, and, certainly, is practically bounded. It is actually demonstrated in paper, page 7. Did you read it? Figure 2 is completely bogus. If wish Google actually cited that refere...
by EvgeniyZh
Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:38 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

First you have to understand what TPU is. There is enough material on that, published by no one else but Google. https://arxiv.org/abs/1704.04760 I do know enough about TPU, and even developed similar system by myself Second it is not 45 TFLOPs but 92 TOPS and that is first generation TPU. Exactly,...
by EvgeniyZh
Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:45 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

Alpha had considerable hardware advantage That comparison is not straightforward, but this claim does not seem to be true. SF had 64 threads. I'm not up on the latest scaling behavior of the engine but that has got to be near saturation. -Carl From what I gleaned from hardware comparisons, the adva...
by EvgeniyZh
Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:21 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

4 hours my ass (pardon my french). Far fewer transistors and joules were used training AlphaZero than have been used training Stockfish. You can soon rent those TPUs on Google's cloud, or apply for free access now, so stop complaining. Furthermore it's an experimental project in early days and perf...
by EvgeniyZh
Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:01 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Replies: 198
Views: 45015

Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo

4 hours my ass (pardon my french). Far fewer transistors and joules were used training AlphaZero than have been used training Stockfish. You can soon rent those TPUs on Google's cloud, or apply for free access now, so stop complaining. Furthermore it's an experimental project in early days and perf...