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by Thomas A. Anderson
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 65042

Re: Alphazero news

Nailing it down to the initial position testing, the only thing you are missing is this the diversification-UCI parameter in the AZ vs. BF test. A test with LC0 against a standard engine with and without that diversification is what should be interesting, right? Aside from lack of diversification or...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:59 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 65042

Re: Alphazero news

If AZ can always play into closed openings from start position no matter what the opponent does, why should its performance on open openings be reflected in its Elo rating? It is a question of philosophy. As 100% of the practical use of chess engines consists of analysis one can argue that a chess ...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 65042

Re: Alphazero news

Sounds like a very reasonable explanation. But "being good" seems to be an attribute of a position that appears to be much more subjective than I thought. BF is playing the book-resulting positions successfully against a non-book SF, that its purpose, the reason why it exists. This superiority is, ...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 65042

Re: Alphazero news

"A0 (Lc0) in a pool of regular engines is not obeying the Elo model." Exactly! Thats why I didn't agree on your ELO math: A0 vs SF8 +17 =75 -8 +31 Elo points Now, at first glance one can almost surely say that SF10 would have performed better, like: SF10 vs SF8 +22 =73 -5 +60 Elo point Matthew told...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 65042

Re: Alphazero news

Matthew, thank you very much for participating in this thread! Everyone here should be grateful, that we are now getting the answers that were missing so much after releasing of the preliminary paper last December. Let's keep this discussion a technical one. With regards to this, I have a question,...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:57 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 65042

Re: Alphazero news

In fact, I mainly take as reliable result for A0 from varied openings the TCEC openings match against SF8: A0 vs SF8 +17 =75 -8 +31 Elo points Now, at first glance one can almost surely say that SF10 would have performed better, like: SF10 vs SF8 +22 =73 -5 +60 Elo points But it still doesn't mean ...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:24 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 65042

Re: Alphazero news

Matthew, thank you very much for participating in this thread! Everyone here should be grateful, that we are now getting the answers that were missing so much after releasing of the preliminary paper last December. Let's keep this discussion a technical one. With regards to this, I have a question, ...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: recent article on alphazero ... 12/11/2017 ...
Replies: 106
Views: 18745

Re: recent article on alphazero ... 12/11/2017 ...

Mr. Muller, I have to admit, that I admire you for your stamina in that of discussion. Kudos!
by Thomas A. Anderson
Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:02 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: $20,000 ICUC - a report on wins
Replies: 70
Views: 19376

Re: $20,000 ICUC - a report on wins

My first thought about your point with ironman was, that it probably shuffles up "only" the bottom part of the rankings. But I'm the one who should have known it better, because these results possibly have cost me some thousands of dollars, leaving me on the 3rd place only by a tie-break-system, tha...
by Thomas A. Anderson
Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:58 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: New challenge for GM: Tyler Cowen's provocation
Replies: 47
Views: 4778

Re: New challenge for GM: Tyler Cowen's provocation

No need for guessing "reality". Just check latest IC Freestyle tournament april/may 2017.