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Thanks for including my engine again. If you announce the next one a bit earlier I might get a new version ready. ;) And what a coincidence, next round my engine vs the TarraschToyEngine, which I used to roughly determine the strength of my first version. I've run tons of blitz games between them wi...

On an unrelated note, I was checking some other TB position and stumbled upon this position https://syzygy-tables.info/?fen=6Q1/5NR1/8/8/1q6/2k5/8/2K5_b_-_-_0_1 Why does the DTZ value of the position vs the one of the top move, down the top line look so weird? Am I missing something? The value I se...

On an unrelated note, I was checking some other TB position and stumbled upon this position https://syzygy-tables.info/?fen=6Q1/5NR ... _b_-_-_0_1
Why does the DTZ value of the position vs the one of the top move, down the top line look so weird? Am I missing something?

I am wondering about this: ftp://112.73.74.24/pub/syzygy/7men_testing/KRRPPPvK.txt Longest win for white: 13 ply; 8/8/1P6/RP6/RP6/8/2k5/K7 b - - [D]8/8/1P6/RP6/RP6/8/2k5/K7 b - - Why can white not respond to any move by black with b7? I don't understand very well your question but I ran the positio...

I know syzygy don't always go for shortest mates. My idea is if syzygy somehow did go for shorest mates, those extra moves can potentially save a good amount of space. Mate in 49 versus 60 mean less space used, just a thought. But if you can convert in 40 moves instead of mate in 49 your numbers ar...

I have it working now. It produces this game: [pgn][FEN "k7/2QR4/8/8/8/4N3/2r4Q/1K6 b - - 0 1"] [Annotator "syzygy-tables.info"] { DTZ -62 } 1... Rc1+ 2. Ka2 Rc2+ 3. Ka3 Rc3+ 4. Ka4 Rc4+ 5. Ka5 Rc5+ 6. Kb6 Rb5+ 7. Kc6 Rc5+ 8. Kd6 Rd5+ 9. Ke6 Re5+ 10. Kf6 Rf5+ 11. Kg6 Rf6+ 12. Kg5 Rg6+ 13. Kf4 Rg4+ ...

syzygy wrote: SF's search indeed does not output the DTZ value.

Was that changed recently? I remember SF used to give DTZ values.
It would output all moves and give the DTZ score for each with something like +3, or -2.
Or maybe that was my GUI, not 100% sure.

Any idea how to access the tb files? SFs TB option is limited to 6 men. If you have a working gcc/mingw installation, try this: https://github.com/syzygy1/Cfish/archive/7men.zip info string Found 511 tablebases. position fen k7/2QR4/8/8/8/4N3/2r4Q/1K6 b - - 0 1 d +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ |...

Are you sure? I thought they were just reusing the training games. Reusing the weights seems possible only for very specific extensions of the network. I also think so, I think the idea is to take the recent 300K training games and train a bigger net with it somehow. Also worth noting, while e.g. I...

I'm loving these. Here another interesting position, white wins in a lot of moves with black to move giving checks. https://lichess.org/analysis/k7/2QR4/8/8/8/4N3/2r4Q/1K6_b_-_- SF for some time even showed 0.00 (after initial +22) and only later found mate in 43 or whatever. Any idea how to access ...