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by jp
Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:34 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

crem wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:36 am
1 node takes 250 bytes, or in other words 1GB is needed for 4M nodes.
What exactly does Leela do once the RAM is used up?
by jp
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:22 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

You can generate that book simply by letting stockfish play against stockfish or against lc0 and add the lines that the engines play at very slow time control to the book ( stockfish is not deterministic so the book is going to have some variety ). I think SF and all traditional engines are highly ...
by jp
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

But human GMs will play incorrectly. To know what I mean, play a match Shredder 8 v latest Stockfish and see how it's completely destroyed, then realize human GMs play even worse than Shredder 8. Shredder 8 has no clue about how to play what would be clearly best opening theory, humans would do wor...
by jp
Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:48 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

You can generate that book simply by letting stockfish play against stockfish or against lc0 and add the lines that the engines play at very slow time control to the book ( stockfish is not deterministic so the book is going to have some variety ). I think SF and all traditional engines are highly ...
by jp
Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:35 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

We're talking about opening theory. Has Lc contributed to directly to opening theory, like humans do, i.e. by playing the novelties in tournament or match games and getting other humans to adopt them? I don't think so. Contributing to opening theory is not only finding novelties because theory is n...
by jp
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Leela outplays SF Dev in a position that SF evaluates as draw
Replies: 17
Views: 905

Re: Leela outplays SF Dev in a position that SF evaluates as draw

Well, what is Lc's evaluation for the position above? Maybe it's also about 0.5-1.0 towards Black. 128x10.T17.6-swa-20000 lc0's output: info depth 23 seldepth 58 time 1557045 nodes 4665017 score cp 48 hashfull 1000 nps 2996 tbhits 0 pv a8d8 d1d2 g8h7 h3h4 h5f7 e6d6 g5g4 d6d8 c6d8 f3d4 f7c4 g1h1 d8e...
by jp
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

Well, it sounds like many CC players think OTB GMs are blundering fools even in their favorite prepared and memorized openings. e.g. When I play ICCF games I don't look at GM games to help me with opening theory. I used to, but found so many errors that I started ignoring human played games. When I ...
by jp
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

Human opening theory is almost irrelevant to modern engine play even though I think engines suck at opening play as compared to their middle game play. AND human opening theory could be made completely irrelevant if learning books were widely used in engines. This sounds like stuff debated in this ...
by jp
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

Engines play much stronger than any humans do and I don't see any engines voluntarily adopting human novelties. Of course engines aren't voluntarily adopting human novelties. :shock: Engines don't do anything voluntarily because they don't think. They don't have intelligence. Humans either give the...
by jp
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: buying a new computer
Replies: 162
Views: 4727

Re: buying a new computer

You sound focused on the results of games. We're not debating whether a human can beat an engine. I was just waiting for an NN engine to play in its game a true good opening novelty that human GMs would then adopt. I don't think it has yet. I don't think NN engines have contributed to opening theor...