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by dkappe
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is the purpose of chess engines?
Replies: 13
Views: 350

Re: What is the purpose of chess engines?

I don’t think you’re really getting useful answers. :-) Maybe we can divide this into audiences: 1) computer chess enthusiasts 2) iccf participants 3) professional players 4) club players 5) casual players 6) everyone else I fall into category 4 — a middling club player. I used to use ab engines to ...
by dkappe
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Winter NN Training Script
Replies: 5
Views: 489

Re: Winter NN Training Script

Thanks for this. Will see if I can provide comments and something interesting.
by dkappe
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:50 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

Let it go, Daniel. He’s not worth it. Andy’s personality defect is punishment enough. Let him grouse with his fellow misanthropes.
by dkappe
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:41 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

For years, you have been taunting Scorpio crashing etc when it none of your business, and now that it doesn't crash at all but it actually crashes Ethereal you are worried. I thought this would be a big lesson for you that when you are trying new stuff ,instead of tuning to death, you are bound to ...
by dkappe
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

There are two separate questions here: 1) is a weights file copyrightable? and 2) are weights files produced using the GPL's training software covered by the GPL? The answer to #2 is no. That's by intent. Go see the FSF's own explanations of the GPL. If you want that to be the case, you need to use...
by dkappe
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

This is highly debatable. A compiled program is also just data which is interpreted by another program (the CPU hardware, developed itself using a hardware description language). It seems to me that NN's may be subject to copyright, just as compiled programs are. What you say is correct, but misses...
by dkappe
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

Hehe, I do not intend to bug, but what happens if a self-play NN file is under GPL and someone uses it to add additional training on top, still GPL? Maybe the answer is that you can not copyright NN files, but then the Fat Fritz NN file would be free to copy and modify... You can write any old thin...
by dkappe
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

is your engine available for testing? It isn't at the moment. An earlier version is available on github under the name leela_lite. You may have to go back a few commits to find a working version. Most of the changes are to reduce and simplify the code and support different network types. I'll relea...
by dkappe
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

If Scorpio is not a Leela clone, what other explanation do you have for a mid-tier engine with an unreadable code base and a rampant history of crashes, bugs, and other play limiting or preventing issues, suddenly shooting up almost overnight to become one of the most powerful engines featured in T...
by dkappe
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:13 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 260
Views: 17260

Re: Fritz 17

They eventually gave up on that model, since (early on) they tried to apply it as a license to things like bison (if bison generates a grammar, then the things using the grammar are also GPL was attempted or something along those lines). But then they discovered that nobody wanted to use their stuf...