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by dkappe
Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:32 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

Milos wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:48 pm

And your reimplemented engine runs "only" 30x slower than Lc0 which is at least 400Elo with the same net. Wow, such an achievement.
Ah, and it’s not a reimplementation of lc0. No way could it be simple and concise if it imitated the spaghetti code of lc0.
by dkappe
Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

It’s the almost impossible task of catching up with all the work already done and being, lc0. It’s the reason the other NNs are essentially just piggybacks on LC0, because their developers simply can’t do the mass of work involved. It would be like trying to catch Stockfish with something based on ...
by dkappe
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

It’s the almost impossible task of catching up with all the work already done and being, lc0. It’s the reason the other NNs are essentially just piggybacks on LC0, because their developers simply can’t do the mass of work involved. It would be like trying to catch Stockfish with something based on ...
by dkappe
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

Oh yeah, if we stick to "2 of 3" rule, I agree that Lc0's NN is surely not "100% unique" relatively to A0 net, it is either a clone or close to being a clone (surely in early Leela it was a clone). Or at least it should bring a strong notion of "not-uniqueness" to either engine or NN part of "2 of ...
by dkappe
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

They are the same neural network, but trained differently, similarly like if you retune all SF constants to make SF play stronger/sharper/more-like-human/whatever, you won’t say that you created a unique eval function, you’ll say you tuned the existing one. Different attempts to write NN-based engi...
by dkappe
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:58 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

Part 2. Are the inputs to your neural network unique? Answer. Only if you are Scorpio. You forgot Stoofvlees. As the person who trained Maddex (that’s the net Scorpio is running), I know exactly what the inputs to it were. You can read up on it here: https://github.com/dkappe/leela-chess-weights/wi...
by dkappe
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

Basically, right now, if you are piggybacking on LCZero engine, your entity is to all intents and purposes a 100% clone. Trying to persuade TCEC is another thing in itself. They’ve built on the idea there is some kind if competition going on with different entities in it, especially with these “exc...
by dkappe
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

I recently tested Allie vs Lc0 on similarity, same NN's thus testing the code base. http://rebel13.nl/html/nn-500ms.html http://rebel13.nl/html/nn-1000ms.html 75% is pretty high. But then NN is a whole different subject in comparison when it's about similarity. I’m sorry, you tested these engines w...
by dkappe
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

I recently tested Allie vs Lc0 on similarity, same NN's thus testing the code base. http://rebel13.nl/html/nn-500ms.html http://rebel13.nl/html/nn-1000ms.html 75% is pretty high. But then NN is a whole different subject in comparison when it's about similarity. I’m sorry, you tested these engines w...
by dkappe
Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 8227

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

At some point a NN engine will beat lc0 in TCEC, and like the swallows returning to Capistrano, you will pen another missive about how they need to be banned. I look forward to your ongoing contortions.