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- Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:07 am
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: NNUE nets with depth of 20?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 560
Re: NNUE nets with depth of 20?
It's a quantity vs quality tradeoff. Required nodes to reach a given depth behaves exponentially. A billion positions analyzed to depth 8 takes a 24 hours with a modern 12 core. Depth 12 takes 10 times that. Depth 20 takes (guesstimate) 750-1000 times as long as depth 8. Without distributed generat...
- Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:24 am
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: NNUE nets with depth of 20?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 560
Re: NNUE nets with depth of 20?
It's a quantity vs quality tradeoff. Required nodes to reach a given depth behaves exponentially. A billion positions analyzed to depth 8 takes a 24 hours with a modern 12 core. Depth 12 takes 10 times that. Depth 20 takes (guesstimate) 750-1000 times as long as depth 8. Without distributed generati...
- Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:03 pm
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: Stockfish NNUE speed is improved a lot
- Replies: 3
- Views: 921
Re: Stockfish NNUE speed is improved a lot
Because in the past NNUE was pure and now it's hybrid.
Most of the speedup comes from classical eval being used on some nodes.
Most of the speedup comes from classical eval being used on some nodes.
- Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:50 am
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: BMI2 vs AVX2 (Stockfish versions)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 765
Re: BMI2 vs AVX2 (Stockfish versions)
Hi everybody, Is there a difference between the two? Is one instruction set faster than the other? My CPU (10900k) supports both of them. Thx. Generally speaking, Intel processors that support bmi2 are faster with BMI2. Current AMD processors support bmi2, but are generally faster with AVX2. YMMV, ...
- Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:52 am
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: CCC has serious hardware update!
- Replies: 107
- Views: 5069
Re: CCC has serious hardware update!
As with the TCEC rig, the GPUs are very nice, but unfortunately the slow CPUs are a fairly severe handicap for GPU engines like Lc0, which do best with a small number of very fast CPUs. Of course, one could say that it is up to Lc0 to improve its CPU code to better utilize more CPUs, but this is pr...
- Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:44 am
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: Is it possible to make Houdini NNUE?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 752
- Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:35 pm
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: Off-the-Air.com incident
- Replies: 4
- Views: 589
Re: Off-the-Air.com incident
So we could realize just how pathetic we would be without! 

- Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:06 am
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
- Topic: M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 6360
Re: M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?
Chip with trash for IO consumes less energy than a big x570 board that has a ton of IO who would have thought? Once they start adding IO energy consumption will rise with it. Not because ARM is inherently superior but because Apple can take the cost of making their systems efficient. Apple doesn't h...
- Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:33 am
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
- Topic: Simplified chess variants?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2541
Re: Simplified chess variants?
Makruk and Seirawan are "extremely" simple. But an 1800 elo player has no chance of playing perfectly. Seirawan chess is not simpler than FIDE chess. The rules are a superset of FIDE rules and the game tree is bigger too. I don't know about Makruk but it looks about the same as FIDE chess. In this ...
- Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:22 pm
- Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
- Topic: Simplified chess variants?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2541
Re: Simplified chess variants?
Makruk and Seirawan are "extremely" simple. But an 1800 elo player has no chance of playing perfectly.