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by Dirt
Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:53 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaGo and Stockfish played on similar hardware
Replies: 21
Views: 4903

Re: AlphaGo and Stockfish played on similar hardware

If I understand A0's learning approach and I think that I do then all the pretraining at classic chess would be useless against Fischer Random unless it transposes somehow and the A0 learned tree can handle transpositions. However, A0 could train 44 million games on all FR positions with the same e...
by Dirt
Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:11 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: AlphaGo and Stockfish played on similar hardware
Replies: 21
Views: 4903

Re: AlphaGo and Stockfish played on similar hardware

You really cannot do that, not even for a millisecond. The training (did I read 44 million games?) is worth more than 1,000 elo and probably much more. The learning was guided by NN to learn on the most promising lines thus narrowing the field. A0 could have gotten winning positions against SF with...
by Dirt
Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:18 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC rabid tournament
Replies: 18
Views: 5865

Re: TCEC rapid tournament

Is it over? I can no longer find it on the chessbomb web site.
by Dirt
Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:41 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: recent article on alphazero ... 12/11/2017 ...
Replies: 106
Views: 20439

Re: recent article on alphazero ... 12/11/2017 ...

Of course the hope is that this form of AI could be used in the future towards solving real-life problems, rather than just silly games. But not many real-life problems are equivalent to two-player zero-sum games with complete information, so this is rather a long shot. I don't think it's a long sh...
by Dirt
Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC rabid tournament
Replies: 18
Views: 5865

Re: TCEC rapid tournament

AdminX wrote:Is the version of Komodo that is playing now fixed?
They went back to the prior version.
by Dirt
Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:55 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: recent article on alphazero ... 12/11/2017 ...
Replies: 106
Views: 20439

Re: recent article on alphazero ... 12/11/2017 ...

Again, Deepmind didn't try to make the best chess program possible. They were trying to show that a neural network worked better than traditional methods. Since they hadn't put variable thinking time into Alphazero they tested both programs with fixed thinking time. This only showed superiority at f...
by Dirt
Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: One idea to solve chess?
Replies: 35
Views: 10709

Re: One idea to solve chess?

Neural nets work well to give very good approximate answers to problems. They are bad at giving exact answers, like tablebases do.
by Dirt
Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:48 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish 8 vs Alpha Zero playing conditions.
Replies: 2
Views: 834

Re: Stockfish 8 vs Alpha Zero playing conditions.

shrapnel wrote:Why not start a Poll listing all the excuses for Stockfish turning into fish stock, to select the best excuse?
Yeah, we already had a better poll with better choices. It showed the membership was equally divided. This poll is redundant.
by Dirt
Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:06 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: You are the captain...
Replies: 5
Views: 1251

Re: You are the captain...

While I think the conditions of the match that Alpha won were fair, they weren't the same as this match. With the fate of the Earth on the line, I'd go with Stockfish.
by Dirt
Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:22 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero
Replies: 193
Views: 76867

Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero

I doubt that Google wants to be in the chess playing, or go playing or shogi playing business. I wonder what their goal is? One possibility is self-driving cars, although they have competition there. Natural language recognition, and possibly translation, is also interesting. Maybe civil engineering?