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by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:13 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

so toga is a angst-opponent for loop and hiarcs.

wow.
together with my data where toga1.3x4 is also an angst-opponent for toga1.2.1a it seems to be that the new toga1.3x4 is an angst-opponent for many programs.

wouldn't that be an indicator that this program could be strong ?
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:05 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

what about these results:

looks impressive too:

http://f50.parsimony.net/forum202220/messages/22668.htm
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:55 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

Of course I don't have anything personaly against him,but we should take a close look at everything which the testers offer us as results and conclusions.....
you can download the games. so anybody can make up his own mind by replaying the data.
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:06 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

i have 5 or 6 or whatever machines and do test ponder on or off, depending on what i want to test. but in ALL tournaments toga 1.3x4 is better than 1.2.1a . in the same way in all tournaments Gambit-tiger is better than normal tiger. with ~ the same amount of points. see e.g. here http://f50.parsimo...
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

no - i have enough machines at home to make sure that what i say is true.

if toga 1.3x4 is weaker, how do you explain those results:
http://216.25.93.108/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5&start=20
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:57 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

exactly. even on my SLOW laptop AMD2400+ toga is doing a lot faster than on terry's machine. so IMO the results are strange enough.

btw. blueberry is weaker than default toga.
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:49 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

if the new version always gets more points than the old version in a tournament, its quite obvious that the new version is better. you don't even have to understand chess to find this out. a look in the ranking-table shows this.
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:47 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

i have not been able to set up a tournament where toga1.2.1a and 1.3x4 participates where the new version is not ahead of the old version with at least 2 or 3 points and even more.

its not possible !

maybe something is broken with the way you test (and with the way the elo-list guys test).
by mclane
Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:45 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
Replies: 132
Views: 91614

Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?

Results should still be relative in most cases
should , could, but it isn't.