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by Osipov Jury
Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:02 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

hgm wrote:Not sure what point you are trying to make. "Crimes with a smaller probability to get caught are less serious crimes", is that it?
We (in Russia) talking about it anyway. If you stole $ 1, then you're a criminal. If you stole a billion, you are - respected people in society.
by Osipov Jury
Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Houdini 1.5 is released
Replies: 177
Views: 72285

Re: Houdini 1.5 is released

Who is this Osipov character? Is he the author of Strelka? When he was first known we only heard of him second hand and then only through translation from Russian that was very hard to understand. His first name has had three different spellings; Yuri, Jury and Juri. When he appeared here for the f...
by Osipov Jury
Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:37 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

No, I do not speak Italian.
But I remember a few dozen Italian words when translated Robbolito.
by Osipov Jury
Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:27 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

The exact amount of effort does not matter to the law, as long as it is not negligible. It determines what the copyrights are worth, not who owns them. Even if it would be 100 times more effort to translate a book into a hyper-complex language than it took to write the original in a simplistic lang...
by Osipov Jury
Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

Karlo Bala wrote: They have a lot of things that should look like that are produced by disassembler (for example: DI(p->move)], [AI(p->move)], etc. ).
DI and AI - it's not an assembler. It's Italian. :D
by Osipov Jury
Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:48 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

Such 'mechanical' transformations still fall under copyright laws. It is like copying an audio tape to CD. If I would invent a new audio-compression system 'MP2011', that will not allow me to start selling Beatles songs in that format. That would be an infringement on copyrights of those songs, des...
by Osipov Jury
Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:48 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

Who says he used code then? The comparison I am commenting on talks about "having innovative ideas from". Not "using code of". Ippolit, on the other hand, seems to be a decompiled code... If it was derived from a decompiled Rybka, that would make it totally illegal. Any work based on Ippolit would ...
by Osipov Jury
Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:13 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

Vas' involvement seems very unlikely. Whatever his flaws he is clearly a commercially minded guy. He is hardly going to ruin his own product by allowing stronger free engines to proliferate on the internet. Vasik lost nothing after release of Ippolit. Sales of Rybka will only have grown. Lost its m...
by Osipov Jury
Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:18 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

Jury, do you have a theory on where Ippolit comes from, then? Of course, Ippolit was made from some version of Rybka. But not from Rybka3 - there are too many differences. Such modifications could make only the author of Rybka. I have no idea who released Ippolit and for what purpose. But without V...
by Osipov Jury
Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:20 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical
Replies: 75
Views: 14555

Re: CCRL/CEGT Hypocritical

Ippolit, on the other hand, seems to be a decompiled code that comes from nowhere, published by 'authors' that do not want to divulge their true identity. If it was derived from a decompiled Rybka, that would make it totally illegal. Any work based on Ippolit would be based on _stolen_ code. Ippoli...