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by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:00 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

Now, where is the problem with that? We don't use the same book. The ChessPartner book moving code will surely pick different moves for engineB than for Telepath. ChessPartner's code for making a book move is a slave to the content of the books (the pgn data and the human encoded priorities). What ...
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:34 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

In practice, we're going to need to allow opening book and EGTB code. :) Most engine authors have been operating on the assumption that this is allowed and only a tournament with incredible rewards could entice them to write their own book code. Wouldn't being able to win the World Championship be ...
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:27 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

Allowing shared book code is actually the democratic choice, anyone can use it. I don't necessarily see that as a good thing. Allowing reusing Fruit code is the democratic choice, anyone can use it. If book code were treated like engine code, then our team would get permission from Convekta or Ches...
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:25 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

Vasik Rajlich wrote:There is no benefit to the chess world in having me or anyone else roll his own EGTB implementation.

Vas
That's like saying Nalimov can't be improved upon. Think 6-men bitbases, for example.
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:18 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

In practice, we're going to need to allow opening book and EGTB code. :) Most engine authors have been operating on the assumption that this is allowed and only a tournament with incredible rewards could entice them to write their own book code. Wouldn't being able to win the World Championship be ...
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:05 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

That could work with a few gatherings in different places. However I would not want to play on any server that stops me using a .ctg book easily. You only want to play in a tournament where the judge of moves and time (the chess server) is controlled by a company which has a strong commercial inter...
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:01 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

We just have to accept that there are a bunch of things which can't be formalized. This includes how 'well-known' an author is, the exact things which have to be kibitzed and logged, etc. In practice, we have had plenty of events (live and online) in the past and some common sense guidelines do see...
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:51 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

I would say EGTB code is an obvious 'no'. Especially if it is EGTB code that is not in the public domain, or that could not be used for everyone because of license requirements. I would tend to agree on that. The current ICGA rule here is obviously a nod to the commercial entrants, for whom it woul...
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:29 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

bob wrote: That's easy enough to get around. Not known? Can't enter. I would not let anonymous people enter anyway...
You're going to require people to scan and mail ID's for an online tournament?
by Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:27 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?
Replies: 220
Views: 34134

Re: An idea for a new WCCC format - what do you think?

If you have an executable which was supposed to play the games, while the games were actually played with a much stronger (and therefore much different) program, it will be pretty obvious even with the non-determinism. You can try the game moves and see how different the scores are, how the scores ...