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by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 42051

Re: Alphazero news

I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Google in general open-sources software for a lot of reasons, probably fairly similar to how other companies that deal with OSS works. Look at the amount of stuff flowing into the Linux kernel—is that for “only for PR purposes”? If so, that's really e...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 42051

Re: Alphazero news

I think it goes deeper than that. If someone, even someone whose knowledge and technical savvy you deeply respected, had told you a few years ago that they could get a program that was nearly one thousand times slower in NPS to compete and even beat the best of the day on a PC, I am guessing you wo...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 42051

Re: Alphazero news

I think it goes deeper than that. If someone, even someone whose knowledge and technical savvy you deeply respected, had told you a few years ago that they could get a program that was nearly one thousand times slower in NPS to compete and even beat the best of the day on a PC, I am guessing you wo...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?
Replies: 9
Views: 1508

Re: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?

But, now, heck no, this is not what this reads like. They are varying only the TC used by A0 to 1/3, 1/10, 1/30, 1/100, keeping SF8 at fixed TCEC time control. As I read fast these diagrams and tables (I am very bright person, you know :lol: ), it instantly struck me that the scaling of A0 is bad, ...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?
Replies: 9
Views: 1508

Re: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?

This is the reverse conclusion from what was reported initially, namely that the AlphaZero advantage over Stockfish would shrink to nothing at faster TC. So it is a bit suspect. Could it be that Stockfish scales even less than 12 Elo per doubling, at this level of play? Unless this new AlphaZero ha...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:47 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 42051

Re: Alphazero news

When he asked for the binaries I guess he probably asked for NN. Since format is well known, there is absolutely no reason why would they wouldn't share it if they are really so devoted to open-source and sharing knowledge. I didn't say Google was devoted to open source. I said they open sourced a ...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:23 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Advice regarding specs for new DTR computer
Replies: 14
Views: 1086

Re: Advice regarding specs for new DTR computer

They switched from GF to TSMC because of it, Nvidia uses TSMC ydb. Who was talking about Nvidia? Don't you even have the basic comprehension skills? The whole thread after OP was about Intel vs AMD. AMD is the one who switched from GF to TSMC, but ofc a db such as yourself wouldn't know that. Btw. ...
by Milos
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:54 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 42051

Re: Alphazero news

Do you think the developers of LC0 can get the binaries used by the team of A0? Unless Google's production systems have changed a lot since I worked there a few years ago, it's highly unlikely you'll be able to take production binaries built inside Google and get them to run on a regular install. T...
by Milos
Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:49 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Advice regarding specs for new DTR computer
Replies: 14
Views: 1086

Re: Advice regarding specs for new DTR computer

Your instincts are right: wait for 7nm hardware. I would focus on the best GPU over CPU, but that's just me.... Hehe, you are gonna wait a bit for that 7nm. :D They switched from GF to TSMC because of it, but there is no guarantee that TSMC can actually make a viable 7nm digital process so far (tha...
by Milos
Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:50 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My non-OC RTX 2070 is very fast with Lc0
Replies: 89
Views: 13479

Re: My non-OC RTX 2070 is very fast with Lc0

OK, something seems off. Why are the 2080 depth 17 nodes so many more than the depth 19 with the 2070? Maybe I am missing something. Thanks. Probably different nets used. But the speed should be fairly uniform with the latter test30 nets, so nps are probably fair to compare. I used 11250, which I h...