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by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:55 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

tomgdrums wrote: Hey Larry,

I know you liked the analogy to Moby Dick BUT I didn't really mean it as a compliment and am I wrong or doesn't the whale win?
Well, I guess this version will have a different ending!
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:35 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

Actually, I realized there is no great need to run this, because we can get the relative ratings at different time controls from the rating lists. Here is the data. Whenever both Houdini 2.0 and 1.5 appear on the same rating list in 32 bit, I averaged the ratings to get a bigger sample, since overa...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:19 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

I doubt the explenation that this was so fast because of the probably known source of Houdini. I am a bit sceptic that this might be a cause of the speed in decompiling it. Maybe it doesn't need 4 weeks, but 4 monthes and then the mess is there again ... nonetheless I hope you are right because thi...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

[ I can't run a rapid/long match Komodo 64 bit SSE - Houdini 1.5 32bit. Can someone else run it? Thank you Best Regards Actually, I realized there is no great need to run this, because we can get the relative ratings at different time controls from the rating lists. Here is the data. Whenever both ...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:35 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

Larry, What is your & Don's release cycle plans for Komodo? Do you plan to follow the once-per-year model or the Rybka 2 model of a release every few months? Personally, I think for serious chess players the Rybka 2 model was the best of all. I think we will release far more often than once a year,...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:31 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

Hi Don, ... That's why it's important to us that Komodo or for that matter Critter or Stockfish or some other legitimate program ends up on the rating lists on top.... Just as a side note I am less confident that this is such a good thing! Just keep in mind what happened to Houdini 2.0 with Strelka...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:25 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: Lazy eval
Replies: 126
Views: 21272

Re: Lazy eval

Actually, that description seems to match what we tried very closely! Ed reports a 3.2 speedup (i.e. 220%) while we get barely over 2%! So it works 100 times better for him than for us, even though we both have complex king safety with large possible scores. Very, very strange!! If you have ProDeo ...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:15 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

I like that analogy! Of course, we have a strong commercial incentive to overtake Houdini, but you are right, it goes beyond that. My main gripe about Houdart is that he has refused to acknowledge the well-established fact that the early Houdini versions were just some Ippolit version with minor mo...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:06 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

I remember long time ago that people here where taking about quality .We had then a system like a Intel 486 DX..to have nice games we played 2hours games for each side,like a normal human game. Everything played faster on a computer was not good?! The games loose quality!? Then suddenly we get the ...
by lkaufman
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:44 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Komodo 4 on long time control
Replies: 154
Views: 39637

Re: Komodo 4 on long time control

[ Don and Larry needs to meet one of their deadlines and release Komodo 4 for testing. All they are waiting for is a version of Komodo 4 that can overtake Houdini in the rating lists. With all the trash talk from them about Houdini's problems. Why the delay? Basically, our problem is that we have t...