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by Dr.Wael Deeb
Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Et Mortuus Est Rex
Replies: 95
Views: 4608

Re: Et Mortuus Est Rex

So I am back again with more interesting stuff I hope .... A games against Gosu 0.16 with the black pieces and the Old Indian Defense .... An equal position from the start of the middle game with changing the queens and on e of the rocks .... So what a 2400 chess engine can do to beat me here ? The ...
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?
Replies: 28
Views: 1038

Re: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?

I also suspect Wael will find an engine he may not be able to beat, or draw against, but it will not necessarily be highly rated, because it'd have weaknesses other engines have learned to exploit. He already did, it's called CT800 1.40 which has a good anti-human style. It is rated 2400 just like ...
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC is testing wrong and this is why ........................
Replies: 5
Views: 461

Re: TCEC is testing wrong and this is why ........................

Unfortunately I don't have time to TCEC so I can't really give any comments here ......
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:52 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?
Replies: 28
Views: 1038

Re: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?

carldaman wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:54 am
Given that the engines have to be tested using openings not of their own choosing would suggest that all rating lists are somewhat compressed, although I'd expect this effect to be more pronounced for stronger engines than weaker ones.
Yes to a certain extent you are correct ....
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:51 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?
Replies: 28
Views: 1038

Re: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?

I also suspect Wael will find an engine he may not be able to beat, or draw against, but it will not necessarily be highly rated, because it'd have weaknesses other engines have learned to exploit. He already did, it's called CT800 1.40 which has a good anti-human style. It is rated 2400 just like ...
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?
Replies: 28
Views: 1038

Re: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?

I think on average even the CCRL ratings are a little deflated in the 2100-2400 range, which makes CEGT too deflated. I know some strong players that have opined that Romichess, for example, is FIDE master stength, at least - especially with learning enabled. You could try it on for size yourself, ...
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:41 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?
Replies: 28
Views: 1038

Re: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?

What we are missing? That a big part of what makes these engines highly rated is that they're really good at exploiting weaker engines' weaknesses, but this doesn't help against humans. So someone like Wael comes along without those weaknesses and outperforms them. Style is more important than stre...
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:39 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?
Replies: 28
Views: 1038

Re: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?

I think on average even the CCRL ratings are a little deflated in the 2100-2400 range, which makes CEGT too deflated. I know some strong players that have opined that Romichess, for example, is FIDE master stength, at least - especially with learning enabled. You could try it on for size yourself, ...
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:36 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Lc0 will hardly ever win TCEC or CCCC?
Replies: 14
Views: 1024

Re: Lc0 will hardly ever win TCEC or CCCC?

Plus there is another aspect. New CPUs will be having more and more support for vector INT8 and BFLOAT16 multiplication operations. So running things on GPUs is not gonna make advantage. I think your analysis is pretty interesting, but there is something to think about with this last part. The AMD ...
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?
Replies: 28
Views: 1038

Re: which is more realistic in human terms, ccrl or cegt?

At the top, the ratings are about synchronized at the top (3500 for SF 11 4 CPUs). But the more you go down in the list, the bigger the difference is. And to compare with human, I'm taking the example of Fritz who played a lot of games at highest level. Kramnik vs Deep Fritz, Bahrain, October 2002 ...