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by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Strange Lc0 TCEC performance
Replies: 132
Views: 15685

Re: Strange Lc0 TCEC performance

Count the LCZero actual results, 3 results, 15 games

From winner to loser order, 15 games, actual results

9
7
6
7
3 ** LC0
10
7
11

Outlier, neither losing, nor winning, is LZ0. Why that?
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 8188

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

Well, the architecture of a neural net maps directly to a computer program. You could say that the net inputs (chess position eg) are variables, the fixed weights as program constants and the net architecture as the program. If you really wanted, you could unroll the program loops and insert the co...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:25 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 8188

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

Meanwhile NN weights are thoroughly and completely dependent on each other. Just try and perform a sort, please. And then see what you get. Database? No way. If you just dump the weights as numbers in a database (forgetting about any structure you might lose by doing that) and that database is then...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 8188

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

I think no one here thinksis of the opinion that NN weights are a database. This was just a misunderstanding. So no need to flog a dead horse. I think the structured set of weights constitutes the object code of a computer program, though. Well, the architecture of a neural net maps directly to a c...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC Division 3 results simulator
Replies: 119
Views: 9451

Re: TCEC Division 3 results simulator

What would have been the results of it's games, had it not disconnected? With another couple of points from there it would be in second place. The two lost games by rule would have scored 1/2 (one game was winning and one lost). So Arasan got the extra point, if no disconnect that would have the ef...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC Division 3 results simulator
Replies: 119
Views: 9451

Re: TCEC Division 3 results simulator

a) Nemorino tendency to hang, shown in a couple of games This should be zero since quite a while. First the threads were reduced to 16. Later even syzygy were disabled (both losses were with very high tbs hits being black) sorry, one other question. are TCEC counting the disconnects as strikes unde...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC Division 3 results simulator
Replies: 119
Views: 9451

Re: TCEC Division 3 results simulator

a) Nemorino tendency to hang, shown in a couple of games This should be zero since quite a while. First the threads were reduced to 16. Later even syzygy were disabled (both losses were with very high tbs hits being black) sorry, one other question. are TCEC counting the disconnects as strikes unde...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:14 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC Division 3 results simulator
Replies: 119
Views: 9451

Re: TCEC Division 3 results simulator

a) Nemorino tendency to hang, shown in a couple of games This should be zero since quite a while. First the threads were reduced to 16. Later even syzygy were disabled (both losses were with very high tbs hits being black) oh, okay, thanks. Good news. I'll go back to the CCRL figure. Are you the pr...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC Division 3 results simulator
Replies: 119
Views: 9451

Re: TCEC Division 3 results simulator

57 games played, Sim predictions to promote: Ethereal 100% Pedone 45% DeusX 24% Arasan 22% LC0 4% Nemorino 2% 1 Ethereal 10.81 3176 11.5 14 70.25 0 +126 82.1 ·· == 1= 1= 1= 11 11 11 2 Pedone 1.8 3104 8.0 14 51.75 0 +66 57.1 == ·· 10 == == 0= 11 =1 3 DeusX 1.0 3200 7.5 14 47.50 0 -19 53.6 0= 01 ·· 10...
by chrisw
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC Division 3 results simulator
Replies: 119
Views: 9451

Re: TCEC Division 3 results simulator

After 13 games each, Sim prediction of promotion: Ethereal 100% Pedone 41% Arasan 27% DeusX 22% Nemorino 3% LC0 3% 1 Ethereal 10.81 3176 10.5 13 59.00 0 +113 80.8 ·· == 1= 1= 1 1= 11 11 2 Pedone 1.8 3104 7.5 13 44.50 0 +61 57.7 == ·· == 10 0= = 11 =1 3 Arasan TCEC13 3142 7.0 13 43.00 0 +26 53.8 0= ...