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by carldaman
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:13 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fat Fritz Update
Replies: 27
Views: 3959

Re: Fat Fritz Update

Is there any way to retain (or get back) the old versions? Hard to tell as I don't even know where the engines are stored on my drive. I updated to version 1.2 without issue. I hope that was not a mistake. You can create a backup folder and store the previous versions there, before you upgrade, so ...
by carldaman
Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:47 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: A nice Leela win over Stockfish 12 in the Benoni Defense
Replies: 7
Views: 1495

Re: A nice Leela win over Stockfish 12 in the Benoni Defense

Yeah, 'Son of Sorrow' is about right. I remember a friend of mine of master strength was a regular Benoni fanatic, but had his hands full with it whenever facing stronger opposition. It still has its fans among masters, though. I still believe it could work as a surprise weapon, and maybe just in mu...
by carldaman
Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:35 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches
Topic: Stockfish NNUE SV Tests
Replies: 157
Views: 55091

Re: Stockfish NNUE SV Tests

OK, thanks for the clarification. :)
by carldaman
Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:36 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches
Topic: Stockfish NNUE SV Tests
Replies: 157
Views: 55091

Re: Stockfish NNUE SV Tests

Game Conditions: Cutechess Gui, 1 Core (Core-i7 9750h), 2 min + 0.5 sec TC, Balsa 5 Moves Opening Book, 128 Mb Hash, Ponder Off//Default Net Cfish version:Cfish 131220 x64 E BMI2 mingw10 (ChessMan version) https://www.mediafire.com/file/phz4bvddgeqd0hz/h115.pgn/file This is a different experience f...
by carldaman
Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:14 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: A nice Leela win over Stockfish 12 in the Benoni Defense
Replies: 7
Views: 1495

Re: A nice Leela win over Stockfish 12 in the Benoni Defense

But if SF or even Lela won with Back against the other...THAT would be of note. We never see those...because it's strategically a dubious opening. T Right, I myself don't play the Benoni for that same reason, but it still appeals to certain human players who like murky positions that are ripe for c...
by carldaman
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:13 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: How many NN Engines are there ?
Replies: 48
Views: 5652

Re: How many NN Engines are there ?

Much too easy to criticize from one's armchair. I for one am glad they're involved in testing as many engines as they are. If you have all these ideas on how to improve things, you could offer up some friendly suggestions. :| I do believe that is exactly what was done. Chessbase sold Houdini for ma...
by carldaman
Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:16 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: How many NN Engines are there ?
Replies: 48
Views: 5652

Re: How many NN Engines are there ?

So this rating was taken before the NN addition which Houdini is listed on top of ethereal, if Houdini 6 is a clone CCRL and TCEC should stop testing them :?: http://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/4040/ Houdini hasn't been a part of TCEC since Season 17, around the time that Houdini 5 and 6 were discovered...
by carldaman
Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:58 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: A nice Leela win over Stockfish 12 in the Benoni Defense
Replies: 7
Views: 1495

Re: A nice Leela win over Stockfish 12 in the Benoni Defense

The following diagram comes from a game where Black does win convincingly from the Black side of a Benoni, against a worthy opponent (let's say stronger than the current human World Champ). [d]1r1qn1k1/1r1n1p1p/p2p2p1/2pP2P1/3bP3/2N5/RPQBBP1P/5RK1 b - - 0 22 Try to figure out the best move without e...
by carldaman
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:41 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fat Fritz Update
Replies: 27
Views: 3959

Re: Fat Fritz Update

So the new(.2)net = the old(.1) one?
The -70 Elo difference is not a motive for development?
Why continue development, just to catch up to freeware? It's only a commercial product... :roll:
by carldaman
Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Has Stockfish NNUE reached it's limit now?
Replies: 29
Views: 5199

Re: Has Stockfish NNUE reached it's limit now?

Or maybe go back to classical eval?

:twisted: