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by mhull
Thu May 03, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far
Replies: 177
Views: 23997

Re: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far

Sigh..wake me up when it is 2800 elo running on singe CPU core, which is what every other engine uses in rating lists. As far as I am concerned, it is still a 2100 elo engine there. Your demand for uniform platform comparison is commutative. Why not demand all the other engines run on a GPU? Then i...
by mhull
Thu May 03, 2018 7:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far
Replies: 177
Views: 23997

Re: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far

... So if I teach my pet frog to play chess, I should demand you play it underwater rather than on land, because demands should be "commutative"? You don't demand the frog should use equal hardware though, which is the point. No, that's not right. Neither you nor my frog are allowed to use any hard...
by mhull
Thu May 03, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far
Replies: 177
Views: 23997

Re: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far

Sigh..wake me up when it is 2800 elo running on singe CPU core, which is what every other engine uses in rating lists. As far as I am concerned, it is still a 2100 elo engine there. Your demand for uniform platform comparison is commutative. Why not demand all the other engines run on a GPU? Then i...
by mhull
Thu May 03, 2018 5:25 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far
Replies: 177
Views: 23997

Re: LCZero Accomplishments and Goals Thus Far

Sigh..wake me up when it is 2800 elo running on singe CPU core, which is what every other engine uses in rating lists. As far as I am concerned, it is still a 2100 elo engine there. Your demand for uniform platform comparison is commutative. Why not demand all the other engines run on a GPU? Then i...
by mhull
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:35 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LC0 on 43 cores had a ~2700 CCRL ELO performance.
Replies: 58
Views: 8164

Re: LC0 on 43 cores had a ~2700 CCRL ELO performance.

A0 was not better than SF8 even with 4TPUs. Rigged tests and and cherry picked results mean nothing. Deepmind paper states that out from 1300 games A0 played with Stockfish the result was +318 =958 -24 in favor of A0 so how A0 is not much much better than SF?? Do you accuse Deepmind, a research com...
by mhull
Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:55 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LC0 on 43 cores had a ~2700 CCRL ELO performance.
Replies: 58
Views: 8164

Re: LC0 on 43 cores had a ~2700 CCRL ELO performance.

A0 was not better than SF8 even with 4TPUs. Rigged tests and and cherry picked results mean nothing. Deepmind paper states that out from 1300 games A0 played with Stockfish the result was +318 =958 -24 in favor of A0 so how A0 is not much much better than SF?? Do you accuse Deepmind, a research com...
by mhull
Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:11 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: LC0 - how to catch up?
Replies: 11
Views: 2469

Re: LC0 - how to catch up?

Stunning progress in the last weeks, maybe it is a bit too early, but i believe here is an paradigm shift underway. So how do the old school chess programmers intend to catch up with LC0? -- Srdja I do not see a progress in the last weeks but a regression. This is normal. AlphaGo and AlphaZero also...
by mhull
Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo
Replies: 604
Views: 100058

Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

On tactical test suite, also no significant progress. Let's hope for now that move selection in the openings will change this real stalling (that in self-games was artificial). It surely was stuck with some local optima in the openings, and the whole training process was flawed. If not this is the ...
by mhull
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:44 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo
Replies: 604
Views: 100058

Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Indeed. Leela's output is an expected score, not actually a win%. The wording on the site has since been changed, it seems, although now it includes this "50%=draw" bit in the legend, which caused some debate in the discord. Probably should just say "50%=equal chances" or some such thing ("expected...
by mhull
Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: I'm not very happy with the do {} while() statement in C
Replies: 111
Views: 27067

Re: I'm not very happy with the do {} while() statement in C

saddling the development community with a scrawny architecture basically forever. Well, no. The last true x86 architecture was the 486. After that, we still have the external x86 instruction set, but not the architecture; internally, modern x86 CPUs are something entirely different. And nobody care...