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by Zenmastur
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:34 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: 1.g4 opening is losing?
Replies: 451
Views: 67184

Re: 1.g4 opening is losing?

From this latest position updated Stockfish_20092822_x64_avx2 with nn-baeb9ef2d183.nnue goes to -1.99 at depth 73 and stays at -1.99 to at least depth 95 (1.5 trillion nodes) so it looks drawish: 95/133 -1.99 1.dxc5 Nxc5 2.Qd4 Qf5 3.Kf1 Rfb8 4.Be3 Rb4 5.Qd2 Ne4 6.Nxe4 Rxe4 7.Qd3 a5 8.Bd2 Bc7 9.Rc1 ...
by Zenmastur
Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:56 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: A match between SF12+NNUE and Leele ver.0.26.2
Replies: 56
Views: 6541

Re: A match between SF12+NNUE and Leele ver.0.26.2

Remember Elo is statistics, and SPRT is statistics, LOS is statistics. "And statistics is a game of probability, and it cannot be known for certain whether statistical conclusions are correct. Whenever there is uncertainty, there is the possibility of making an error. Considering this nature of sta...
by Zenmastur
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:20 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: How long for you to detmerine that this position is dm35?
Replies: 5
Views: 1095

Re: How long for you to detmerine that this position is dm35?

So I'd take the dtm from the output after 2.hxg5 and leave it for good, Yet could'nt resist :-) 8/2p5/2b2Bpp/2P5/pK2P1kP/1p6/1P6/8 b - - 0 1 Analysis by Cfish 030820 64 POPCNT NUMA: 1...g5 2.hxg5 hxg5 3.e5 Kf4 4.Bd8 g4 5.Bxc7 g3 6.Bd6 g2 7.e6+ Ke3 8.Bh2 Kf2 9.Be5 g1Q 10.Bd4+ Kg2 11.Bxg1 Kxg1 12.Kc3...
by Zenmastur
Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:46 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: this will be the merge of a lifetime : SF 80 Elo+
Replies: 121
Views: 24292

Re: this will be the merge of a lifetime : SF 80 Elo+

This is the breakthrough I've been predicting for years! It finally happened, and I'm just glad chess looks very healthy after it (draw rates have gone down! Some lines are proving to be playable again!) Until everyone uses these? Everyone is already using these, when Eman Enigma 1.00 (closed sourc...
by Zenmastur
Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:39 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Mate solving comparison (10 - 19 moves)
Replies: 46
Views: 9717

Re: Mate solving comparison (10 - 19 moves)

SF-NNUE has found a few improvements: [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "1-0"] [FEN "6br/5p2/2pN4/2p2Kpk/2P2R2/6Pp/2P4P/8 w - - 0 1"] 1.Rh4+ (104:M21) 1...gxh4 2.g4+ Kh6 3.Kf6 Kh7 4.Ne8 Kh6 5.Ng7 Kh7 6.Nh5 Kh6 7.Nf4 Kh7 8.Nxh3 Kh6 9.Nf4 Kh7 10.h3 ...
by Zenmastur
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:32 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: An amazing net for SF-NNUE.
Replies: 16
Views: 4448

Re: An amazing net for SF-NNUE.

Trained on Reinforcement Learn and fine tuned using CCRL games: https://www.dropbox.com/s/71qy3j8gtgch2ss/qh-fine-0803-5.zip?dl=0 How does this net fair against some of Sergio's more recent nets? I tested it vs. SF 200717, like all S.Vieri nets. Look here: https://www.sp-cc.de/files/ergebnisse_nnue...
by Zenmastur
Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:36 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SF-NNUE going forward...
Replies: 90
Views: 18575

Re: SF-NNUE going forward...

It seems to me that the size of the net that is optimal is likely a function of the power of the computer. A one core Pentium would need a tiny net, and a 128 core dual Epyc would be able to use a much larger net. I don't have any proof, just another thought experiment It seems to me that if you ar...
by Zenmastur
Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:05 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SF-NNUE going forward...
Replies: 90
Views: 18575

Re: SF-NNUE going forward...

Zen: Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering about the size of Sergio's NN_SF nets at 20 MB. How does that compare to the size of the lco nets; and why not create much larger NN_SF nets? Lc0 nets are much larger and have a different structure. They run best on GPU's which limits their usefulnes...
by Zenmastur
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SF-NNUE going forward...
Replies: 90
Views: 18575

Re: SF-NNUE going forward...

I've noticed some unusual and VERY interesting behaviors as well. Yeah, I had a record time of analysis obsolescence. Before NNUE I could count about a 11 months window (analysis from around September 2019 was becoming obsolete.) After NNUE, I can say that ALL my analysis with Stockfish dev became ...
by Zenmastur
Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:42 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Mate solving comparison (10 - 19 moves)
Replies: 46
Views: 9717

Re: Mate solving comparison (10 - 19 moves)

DM 25 - 27 [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "1-0"] [FEN "kN5r/b4Pp1/Q4pP1/3P1p2/1pPp1Pp1/pPp1PB1r/2n5/1n4K1 w - - 0 1"] {[Stockfish 150220 64 POPCNT] 68:M27} 1. Nc6 Rg3+ 2. Bg2 Rxg2+ 3. Kxg2 Ne1+ 4. Kf2 dxe3+ 5. Kxe1 Rh1+ 6. Ke2 Rh2+ 7. Kd1 e2+ ...