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by whereagles
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:03 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3
Replies: 44
Views: 8008

Re: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3

meanwhile the "lowly" 15x192 main server seems to be rising to unseen heights.. not bad for a would-be plateauing NN.

Well.. for self-play that is. Maybe it's not so hot in general play.
by whereagles
Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:00 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Ivanhoe plays singlecore in TCEC 13 !!
Replies: 73
Views: 12176

Re: Ivanhoe plays singlecore in TCEC 13 !!

Moore's law is dead but survived far longer than expected, really.
by whereagles
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:04 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X
Replies: 182
Views: 29874

Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

The gpus are not underpowered. 2x 1080Ti give about 22 teraflops of 32bit float performance (theoretically). What might happen is that they get too hot due to insufficient cooling. In that case they start throttling down significantly. Funny you mention that. Some TCEC viewers reported slow downs i...
by whereagles
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:00 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: 3497 elo Leela, possibly 4th best chess engine now!!
Replies: 21
Views: 3843

Re: 3497 elo Leela, possibly 4th best chess engine now!!

FIDE ELO does not define 0 = random play. That concept was not at stake when ELO was invented. Perhaps that could be changed nowadays, but I really doubt it will be.
by whereagles
Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:57 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3
Replies: 44
Views: 8008

Re: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3

I doubt, that DeusX will be allowed to play in Div 3. https://blog.lczero.org/2018/08/07/mistake/ Ok, I think that settles it. It is a bit too radical, but understandable. (I would allow DX to finish this season, but I'm not the admin lol) Still, comparing learning approaches does have value per se...
by whereagles
Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:51 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3
Replies: 44
Views: 8008

Re: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3

Gabor, it is very confusing yes. I believe they are using a 15x192 network in the main server (ID in the 500s) and a test network of 20x256 in the test server (ID in the 10000s), but I'm not totally sure. The 20x256 network is the same size as AlphaZero so, in theory, with proper training time it wi...
by whereagles
Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:46 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X
Replies: 182
Views: 29874

Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Underpowered? What would be the necessary upgrade in your opinion, Kai?
by whereagles
Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:58 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Ivanhoe plays singlecore in TCEC 13 !!
Replies: 73
Views: 12176

Re: Ivanhoe plays singlecore in TCEC 13 !!

what a mess.. some people definitely need to chill out and start to realize the world is not, and never will, be as they want it to be
by whereagles
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Call to all Engine Programers to complain to TCEC
Replies: 19
Views: 3570

Re: Call to all Engine Programers to complain to TCEC

pseudo-code for alpha-beta is known for a long time.. any implementation is bound to be extremely similar to a previous one, if not equal.

if this isn't a problem, why should using two different NN be?
by whereagles
Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:52 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X
Replies: 182
Views: 29874

Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Aren't you guys being a bit too strict??? TCEC is for amusement only, and two NN, trained under very different circumstances, add a nice twist to this season. The shared base code situation is obviously borderline on the regulations, but the competition will certainly gain in interest.