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by noobpwnftw
Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: BIG NEWS! The 7 man syzygy tablebase files are complete.
Replies: 15
Views: 4433

Re: BIG NEWS! The 7 man syzygy tablebase files are complete.

Not more than 60k$, as I already wrote. Most of your assumptions are simply wrong. Those Intel Platinums are not more than 5k$ when bought in bulk. Memory is 8$/GB even today, last year was cheaper. 1.5TB is max 12k$. No one uses SAS any more. That's a thing of the past. Enterprise systems use NVMe...
by noobpwnftw
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: 7-men Syzygy attempt
Replies: 588
Views: 113981

Re: 7-men Syzygy attempt

All 7-piece tables have been built. I have also renamed the folder(removed "_testing"). Now the full set is at: ftp://ftp.chessdb.cn/pub/syzygy/7men/ Final sizes: 151G ./3-6men 12T ./7men/4v3_pawnful 2.4T ./7men/4v3_pawnless 2.3T ./7men/5v2_pawnful 660G ./7men/5v2_pawnless 117G ./7men/6v1_pawnful 87...
by noobpwnftw
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:19 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 7774

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

1) If I write a very sophisticated implementation of rand(), do I own IP over the result of my algorithm from whoever runs it? 2) My rand() implementation is seeded by an integer value, person A and person B chose different integers based their own creative methods that may or may not involve extens...
by noobpwnftw
Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 7774

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

If I make a much stronger NN by feeding it carefully selected (by me) games, I would own the copyright of the resulting NN. Leela folks would probably argue that the effort they put into making the supervised NN training code(currently broken) is much more than your effort in "careful selection", s...
by noobpwnftw
Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 7774

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

I would not contest that at all, but just argue that it is irrelevant. I would just have used it as a tool, just like I would use the gcc compiler as a tool to create the executable for a simplistic mini-Shogi engine that I would sell in the app store. I am sure the effort in creating gcc was many ...
by noobpwnftw
Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 7774

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

If I make a much stronger NN by feeding it carefully selected (by me) games, I would own the copyright of the resulting NN. Leela folks would probably argue that the effort they put into making the GPLv3 supervised NN training code(currently broken) is much more than your effort in "careful selecti...
by noobpwnftw
Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Copyright and Machine Learning IP
Replies: 102
Views: 7774

Re: Copyright and Machine Learning IP

Given that, do the contributors who produce self-play games for this particular purpose share the IP or the authorship of the NNs or just whoever builds the training software does? One thing I know is people may not copyright the games that they played(which are used in the DeusX case), so if machin...
by noobpwnftw
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3
Replies: 44
Views: 6854

Re: Leela will use Net 10480 in TCEC Div3

Not that, I find it weird that in the stream it says SF has 25Mnps on 31 cores in an endgame position. Usually SF gives about > 1.2M on average per core(check fishtest), so his CPU does seem lame.
by noobpwnftw
Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Call to all Engine Programers to complain to TCEC
Replies: 19
Views: 2995

Re: Call to all Engine Programers to complain to TCEC

If I have to be honest to my heart, this isn't about the legitimacy or anything, I guess the LC0 authors are at least cool with the current clarifications, but the real storm is yet to come. Fanboys' worst nightmare is that his NN may actually perform better in practice...Now that is what this is a...
by noobpwnftw
Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Call to all Engine Programers to complain to TCEC
Replies: 19
Views: 2995

Re: Call to all Engine Programers to complain to TCEC

If I have to be honest to my heart, this isn't about the legitimacy or anything, I guess the LC0 authors are at least cool with the current clarifications, but the real storm is yet to come. Fanboys' worst nightmare is that his NN may actually perform better in practice, which instead of learning fr...