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by corres
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

I value those peoples who have self-critics.
However In scientific and in technical works we need opinions without emotions.
And chess engines are such products.
Naturally ones who only use these engines we should not expect emotionless - mainly in the case of youngsters.
by corres
Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

I guess the same applies to the A/B engines compared to one nn engine. All A/B engines are very similar to each other, just Lc0 is completely different. So it is likely that the good A/B engines perform better against weak A/B engines than Lc0. But there are really not enough games to draw any seri...
by corres
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:48 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

I guess the same applies to the A/B engines compared to one nn engine. All A/B engines are very similar to each other, just Lc0 is completely different. So it is likely that the good A/B engines perform better against weak A/B engines than Lc0. But there are really not enough games to draw any seri...
by corres
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

Try a mind experiment. Take lc0 and sf and assume that on some hardware they are about the same strength. Outcome is easy to imagine. It's fifty-fifty on who will win a multi game contest. Now, try two sf verses lc0. To win the contest, lc0 must beat sf0 AND sf1. The word AND here is a magic helper...
by corres
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:55 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

As I see basically Leela is weaker against the relative weaker engines than the Stockfish family are. Another Leela's issue is as the opening position is more further from start position as Leela is more and more weaker. It is a consequence of self-play training what begins from start position. You...
by corres
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:24 am
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by corres
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

I guess end of an era was when DeepMind published the preprint with the Chess engine, if not with the Go engine 3 or so years ago. You do realize the breakthrough, don't you? Sure, old engines have their use, in the same sense as agriculture will never disappear because of manufacturing and service...
by corres
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

An 3000 ELO Engine will performe better against a older version of itself with 2990 ELO than against a different engine with 2990 ELO. Thus it is not a surprise that in this setup some Stockfish engines took the lead. It depends on the behaviors of those different engines. As I see basically Leela ...
by corres
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

Where is your logic? If "Stockfish is STILL a great engine..." only the posts were silly what said 'end of an era'. I think there is no any "end of era" only the competition is between developers of Stockfish and the developers of Leela. We, users are the beneficiary this competition. Thanks for th...
by corres
Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Where are the funs of Leela?
Replies: 78
Views: 6124

Re: Where are the funs of Leela?

This thread is JUST AS SILLY as the 'end of an era' threads. Anyone who has paid attention over the last few months can make the following, fair assessments... 1. Stockfish is STILL a great engine... It is clear that the developers have tweaked it's settings in such a way to punish lower tier'd eng...