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by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:27 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

The GPL FAQ explicitly addresses this situation, and states that it is legal to distribute a GPL'ed interpreter with an interpreted program that has a different license. interpreter: A person who interprets, especially one who translates speech orally or into sign language. It is obvious to me that...
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:43 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Yes, of course I am claiming that, assuming that the images are loaded into memory by the program. Data is not source code. We need to start to define some word to avoid misunderstandings. Everything is data, just 0 or 1, and everything is loaded into memory. Data is usually used with the meaning o...
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:54 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Dann Corbit wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:22 am
You don't need any permission if you supply the source. It says that very clearly in the license.
People are trying to manufacture a requirement for data that does not exist, so that they can find fault.
Are you claming that the images of a GPL videogame are not part of the source?
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:51 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Do you understand "if', i.e. the concept of a hypothetical? No. Maybe there is a misunderstanding with the meaning of releasing, which I interpreted as "Remove restrictions or obligations from (someone or something) so that they become available for other activity." Can you please reword your state...
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:29 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

What personal attack? You accused me of hating ChessBase, which is not true and I don't understand what made you think that. If they had not also released their NNUE net This is the part I disagree with. They distribute a work that includes a binary file, and to comply with the GPL license they mus...
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:20 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Dann Corbit wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:12 am
If the video game is GPL, where is the infringement?
I wrote "without permission".
You don't have the permission to sell a GPL videogame if you don't respect all the clauses of the license.
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

I do not understand this sentence in the GPL3 To “modify” a work means to copy from or adapt all or part of the work in a fashion requiring copyright permission How could it ever require any kind of permission to modify something? It is used to define "covered work": 1) “covered work” = either the ...
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:43 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Well, there is no copyright on binaries anyway, right? They only represent the functionality of the program. :roll: It would be nice if when someone thinks about copyright they do it from the point of view: if I create something how can I prevent it from being redistributed without my permission? I...
by Fulvio
Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:16 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 473
Views: 38467

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Let not your hatred of CB blind you... Please don't stoop to personal attacks. The spirit of the GPL is that you can freely redistribute the modified work only if you pass on to the recipients the same freedoms that you received. All these attempts with elaborate logical constructions (they are dif...
by Fulvio
Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:04 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: How A New EF Could Get Around The GPL
Replies: 4
Views: 533

Re: How A New EF Could Get Around The GPL

towforce wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:56 am
An interesting question that does arise though: suppose I wrote a new EF, I wanted to keep the source closed, and I didn't want to write the rest of the chess program.
Pay someone to write the part you don't want to write.