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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by Sean Evans » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:05 pm

http://pagesix.com/2016/11/22/putin-bac ... mpionship/

Putin-backed prodigy gets under rival’s skin at World Chess Championship

By Oli Coleman November 22, 2016 | 10:09pm

The World Chess Championship — which Page Six previously reported is wrought this year with international political undertones — boiled over at Monday’s match.

After seven encounters in the competition between Russian Sergey Karjakin and heavily favored Norwegian world champ Magnus Carlsen ended in draws, Kremlin-backed Karjakin, 26, beat his opponent, 25, in their eighth face-off at Fulton Market.

Carlsen left the table, stormed past waiting reporters and headed straight to his seat at the post-match press conference. But, we’re told, “so many reporters wanted to talk to Sergey that Magnus had to wait for him to arrive. After a couple of minutes, Magnus threw his hands up, walked out of the press conference and left the building.”

According to an insider, “His manager ran after him, because the press conference is obligatory. He’ll be fined some of his earnings for walking out.” Added the source, “He’s not used to losing.”

Chess insiders say Russia, which hasn’t competed for the world championship since 2008, is heavily invested in Karjakin winning the competition, which is still going on.

Sources say that he has been prepped by Russian grandmasters in hopes of pulling off a “massive p.r. coup” in front of an American audience.

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by AdminX » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:00 pm

I did not feel as if Karjakin beat Carlsen in game 8, I felt that Carlsen beat himself by over-pressing a wee bit to much. Still those were so very impressive moves he (Karjakin) played at the finish. Congrats to Karjakin for the win!
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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by Vinvin » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:15 pm

Game 9.
46.Qh8+ is winning ! I get >3 for all lines !

[Event "World Chess Championship 2016"]
[Site "Fulton Market Building, New York"]
[Date "2016.10.23"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Karjakin, Sergey"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[ECO "C78"]
[Opening "Spanish"]
[Variation "5.O-O b5 6.Bb3 Bc5 7.a4 Rb8"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "148"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bc5 7. a4 Rb8 8.
c3 d6 9. d4 Bb6 10. axb5 axb5 11. Na3 O-O 12. Nxb5 Bg4 13. Bc2 exd4 14.
Nbxd4 Nxd4 15. cxd4 Bxf3 16. gxf3 Nh5 17. Kh1 Qf6 18. Be3 c5 19. e5 Qe6 20.
exd6 c4 21. b3 cxb3 22. Bxb3 Qxd6 23. Ra6 Rfd8 24. Rg1 Qd7 25. Rg4 Nf6 26.
Rh4 Qb5 27. Ra1 g6 28. Rb1 Qd7 29. Qd3 Nd5 30. Rg1 Bc7 31. Bg5 Re8 32. Qc4
Rb5 33. Qc2 Ra8 34. Bc4 Rba5 35. Bd2 Ra4 36. Qd3 Ra1 37. Rxa1 Rxa1+ 38. Kg2
Ne7 39. Bxf7+ Kxf7 40. Qc4+ Kg7 41. d5 Nf5 42. Bc3+ Kf8 43. Bxa1 Nxh4+ 44.
Qxh4 Qxd5 45. Qf6+ Qf7 46. Qd4 (46. Qh8+ Ke7 (46. .. Qg8 47. Qd4 Qf7 48.
Bc3 h5 (48. .. Ke7 49. Bb4+ Ke8 50. h3 Bd8 51. Qe5+ Kd7 52. Qb5+ Kc8 53.
Bd6 Qb7 54. Qc4+ Kd7 55. Bf4 Be7 56. Qf7 Qb5 57. Qxh7) 49. h3 Ke8 50. Qe4+
Kf8 51. Qa8+ Ke7 (51. .. Qe8 52. Qb7 Qd8) 52. Bb4+ Kf6 53. Qa1+ Kf5 54. h4)
47. Be5 Bxe5 (47. .. Bd8 48. Bg3 Kd7) 48. Qxe5+ Kd7 49. Kg3 Kc6 50. Qe4+
Kb6 51. Qd3 Kb7 52. Qb5+ Kc8 53. f4 Qe6) 46. .. Ke8 47. Qe4+ Qe7 48. Qd5
Bd8 49. Kf1 Qf7 50. Qe4+ Qe7 51. Be5 Qe6 52. Kg2 Be7 53. Qa8+ Kf7 54. Qh8
h5 55. Qg7+ Ke8 56. Bf4 Qf7 57. Qh8+ Qf8 58. Qd4 Qf5 59. Qc4 Kd7 60. Bd2
Qe6 61. Qa4+ Qc6 62. Qa7+ Qc7 63. Qa2 Qd6 64. Be3 Qe6 65. Qa7+ Ke8 66. Bc5
Bd8 67. h3 Qd5 68. Be3 Be7 69. Qb8+ Kf7 70. Qh8 Qe6 71. Bf4 Qf6 72. Qb8 Qe6
73. Qb7 Kg8 74. Qb5 Bf6 1/2-1/2

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by zenpawn » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:09 pm

Interesting. Someone mentioned the computer line 46.Qh8+ Qg8 47.Qd4 to them in the press conference, and they didn't seem impressed. :)

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by Vinvin » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:26 pm

zenpawn wrote:Interesting. Someone mentioned the computer line 46.Qh8+ Qg8 47.Qd4 to them in the press conference, and they didn't seem impressed. :)
That's way too much complicated for humans.
Svidler was commenting there are only draws :/

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by whereagles » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:14 am

Some engine-found combinations seem easy after you look at them. But then you think closely and rapidly conclude it would require a top-shape Tal or Alekhine to find them on the board.

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:05 am

whereagles wrote:Some engine-found combinations seem easy after you look at them. But then you think closely and rapidly conclude it would require a top-shape Tal or Alekhine to find them on the board.
a top-shape Talekhine would be even better. :)

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by AdminX » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:01 pm

[pgn][Event "AGON FWCM 2016"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "2016.11.24"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Karjakin, Sergey"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C65"]
[WhiteElo "2853"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "149"]
[EventDate "2016.??.??"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[TimeControl "40/6000+30:20/3000+30:900+30"]

1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 3. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 4. d3 {[%emt 0:00:
00]} Bc5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 5. c3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:11]} 6. Bg5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} h6 {[%emt 0:03:22]} 7. Bh4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Be7 {[%emt 0:00:46]
} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:50]} d6 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 9. Nbd2 {[%emt 0:00:35]} Nh5 {
[%emt 0:07:51]} 10. Bxe7 {[%emt 0:00:25]} Qxe7 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 11. Nc4 {
[%emt 0:00:19]} Nf4 {[%emt 0:07:01]} 12. Ne3 {[%emt 0:00:19]} Qf6 {[%emt 0:04:
26]} 13. g3 {[%emt 0:27:30]} Nh3+ {[%emt 0:02:01]} 14. Kh1 {[%emt 0:03:15]} Ne7
{[%emt 0:04:36]} 15. Bc4 {[%emt 0:06:58]} c6 {[%emt 0:33:27]} 16. Bb3 {[%emt 0:
00:11]} Ng6 {[%emt 0:12:11]} 17. Qe2 {[%emt 0:08:29]} a5 {[%emt 0:03:35]} 18.
a4 {[%emt 0:07:42]} Be6 {[%emt 0:01:02]} 19. Bxe6 {[%emt 0:02:39]} fxe6 {
[%emt 0:00:28]} 20. Nd2 {[%emt 0:09:44]} d5 {[%emt 0:01:03]} 21. Qh5 {[%emt 0:
06:07]} Ng5 {[%emt 0:08:48]} 22. h4 {[%emt 0:00:16]} Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:56]} 23.
Nxf3 {[%emt 0:06:03]} Qxf3+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 24. Qxf3 {[%emt 0:00:08]} Rxf3 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 25. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:10]} Rf7 {[%emt 0:01:22]} 26. Rfe1 {
[%emt 0:00:15]} h5 {[%emt 0:03:32]} 27. Nf1 {[%emt 0:04:12]} Kf8 {[%emt 0:00:
10]} 28. Nd2 {[%emt 0:03:02]} Ke7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 29. Re2 {[%emt 0:06:50]} Kd6
{[%emt 0:01:40]} 30. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:30]} Raf8 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 31. Ng5 {
[%emt 0:00:13]} Re7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 32. Rae1 {[%emt 0:01:59]} Rfe8 {[%emt 0:
02:11]} 33. Nf3 {[%emt 0:03:46]} Nh8 {[%emt 0:03:23]} 34. d4 {[%emt 0:01:06]}
exd4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Nxd4 {[%emt 0:00:10]} g6 {[%emt 0:00:58]} 36. Re3 {
[%emt 0:02:46]} Nf7 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 37. e5+ {[%emt 0:05:21]} Kd7 {[%emt 0:00:
03]} 38. Rf3 {[%emt 0:00:33]} Nh6 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 39. Rf6 {[%emt 0:00:15]} Rg7
{[%emt 0:00:09]} 40. b4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} axb4 {[%emt 0:05:51]} 41. cxb4 {
[%emt 0:00:56]} Ng8 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 42. Rf3 {[%emt 0:05:29]} Nh6 {[%emt 0:01:
23]} 43. a5 {[%emt 0:02:11]} Nf5 {[%emt 0:01:11]} 44. Nb3 {[%emt 0:00:26]} Kc7
{[%emt 0:08:13]} 45. Nc5 {[%emt 0:00:11]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:09:44]} 46. Rb1 {
[%emt 0:02:40]} Ka7 {[%emt 0:02:14]} 47. Rd3 {[%emt 0:02:35]} Rc7 {[%emt 0:07:
40]} 48. Ra3 {[%emt 0:18:39]} Nd4 {[%emt 0:04:07]} 49. Rd1 {[%emt 0:00:52]} Nf5
{[%emt 0:01:48]} 50. Kh3 {[%emt 0:00:45]} Nh6 {[%emt 0:02:38]} 51. f3 {[%emt 0:
02:16]} Rf7 {[%emt 0:04:11]} 52. Rd4 {[%emt 0:08:19]} Nf5 {[%emt 0:01:31]} 53.
Rd2 {[%emt 0:03:12]} Rh7 {[%emt 0:03:16]} 54. Rb3 {[%emt 0:00:48]} Ree7 {
[%emt 0:02:31]} 55. Rdd3 {[%emt 0:01:42]} Rh8 {[%emt 0:04:57]} 56. Rb1 {
[%emt 0:00:56]} Rhh7 {[%emt 0:03:28]} 57. b5 {[%emt 0:00:42]} cxb5 {[%emt 0:00:
11]} 58. Rxb5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} d4 {[%emt 0:03:54]} 59. Rb6 {[%emt 0:01:23]} Rc7
{[%emt 0:00:11]} 60. Nxe6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rc3 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 61. Nf4 {
[%emt 0:05:35]} Rhc7 {[%emt 0:03:51]} 62. Nd5 {[%emt 0:06:27]} Rxd3 {[%emt 0:
01:59]} 63. Nxc7 {[%emt 0:01:01]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 64. Nb5 {[%emt 0:01:29]}
Kc8 {[%emt 0:00:15]} 65. Rxg6 {[%emt 0:07:39]} Rxf3 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 66. Kg2 {
[%emt 0:01:22]} Rb3 {[%emt 0:02:21]} 67. Nd6+ {[%emt 0:00:24]} Nxd6 {[%emt 0:
00:03]} 68. Rxd6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Re3 {[%emt 0:01:16]} 69. e6 {[%emt 0:00:36]}
Kc7 {[%emt 0:07:43]} 70. Rxd4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Rxe6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 71. Rd5 {
[%emt 0:00:14]} Rh6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 72. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:35]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:01:
56]} 73. Kf4 {[%emt 0:00:18]} Ka7 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 74. Kg5 {[%emt 0:01:14]} Rh8
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 75. Kf6 {[%emt 0:00:19]} 1-0

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by AdminX » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:18 pm

AdminX wrote:[pgn][Event "AGON FWCM 2016"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "2016.11.24"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Karjakin, Sergey"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C65"]
[WhiteElo "2853"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "149"]
[EventDate "2016.??.??"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[TimeControl "40/6000+30:20/3000+30:900+30"]

1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 3. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 4. d3 {[%emt 0:00:
00]} Bc5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 5. c3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:11]} 6. Bg5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} h6 {[%emt 0:03:22]} 7. Bh4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Be7 {[%emt 0:00:46]
} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:50]} d6 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 9. Nbd2 {[%emt 0:00:35]} Nh5 {
[%emt 0:07:51]} 10. Bxe7 {[%emt 0:00:25]} Qxe7 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 11. Nc4 {
[%emt 0:00:19]} Nf4 {[%emt 0:07:01]} 12. Ne3 {[%emt 0:00:19]} Qf6 {[%emt 0:04:
26]} 13. g3 {[%emt 0:27:30]} Nh3+ {[%emt 0:02:01]} 14. Kh1 {[%emt 0:03:15]} Ne7
{[%emt 0:04:36]} 15. Bc4 {[%emt 0:06:58]} c6 {[%emt 0:33:27]} 16. Bb3 {[%emt 0:
00:11]} Ng6 {[%emt 0:12:11]} 17. Qe2 {[%emt 0:08:29]} a5 {[%emt 0:03:35]} 18.
a4 {[%emt 0:07:42]} Be6 {[%emt 0:01:02]} 19. Bxe6 {[%emt 0:02:39]} fxe6 {
[%emt 0:00:28]} 20. Nd2 {[%emt 0:09:44]} d5 {[%emt 0:01:03]} 21. Qh5 {[%emt 0:
06:07]} Ng5 {[%emt 0:08:48]} 22. h4 {[%emt 0:00:16]} Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:56]} 23.
Nxf3 {[%emt 0:06:03]} Qxf3+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 24. Qxf3 {[%emt 0:00:08]} Rxf3 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 25. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:10]} Rf7 {[%emt 0:01:22]} 26. Rfe1 {
[%emt 0:00:15]} h5 {[%emt 0:03:32]} 27. Nf1 {[%emt 0:04:12]} Kf8 {[%emt 0:00:
10]} 28. Nd2 {[%emt 0:03:02]} Ke7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 29. Re2 {[%emt 0:06:50]} Kd6
{[%emt 0:01:40]} 30. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:30]} Raf8 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 31. Ng5 {
[%emt 0:00:13]} Re7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 32. Rae1 {[%emt 0:01:59]} Rfe8 {[%emt 0:
02:11]} 33. Nf3 {[%emt 0:03:46]} Nh8 {[%emt 0:03:23]} 34. d4 {[%emt 0:01:06]}
exd4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Nxd4 {[%emt 0:00:10]} g6 {[%emt 0:00:58]} 36. Re3 {
[%emt 0:02:46]} Nf7 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 37. e5+ {[%emt 0:05:21]} Kd7 {[%emt 0:00:
03]} 38. Rf3 {[%emt 0:00:33]} Nh6 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 39. Rf6 {[%emt 0:00:15]} Rg7
{[%emt 0:00:09]} 40. b4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} axb4 {[%emt 0:05:51]} 41. cxb4 {
[%emt 0:00:56]} Ng8 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 42. Rf3 {[%emt 0:05:29]} Nh6 {[%emt 0:01:
23]} 43. a5 {[%emt 0:02:11]} Nf5 {[%emt 0:01:11]} 44. Nb3 {[%emt 0:00:26]} Kc7
{[%emt 0:08:13]} 45. Nc5 {[%emt 0:00:11]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:09:44]} 46. Rb1 {
[%emt 0:02:40]} Ka7 {[%emt 0:02:14]} 47. Rd3 {[%emt 0:02:35]} Rc7 {[%emt 0:07:
40]} 48. Ra3 {[%emt 0:18:39]} Nd4 {[%emt 0:04:07]} 49. Rd1 {[%emt 0:00:52]} Nf5
{[%emt 0:01:48]} 50. Kh3 {[%emt 0:00:45]} Nh6 {[%emt 0:02:38]} 51. f3 {[%emt 0:
02:16]} Rf7 {[%emt 0:04:11]} 52. Rd4 {[%emt 0:08:19]} Nf5 {[%emt 0:01:31]} 53.
Rd2 {[%emt 0:03:12]} Rh7 {[%emt 0:03:16]} 54. Rb3 {[%emt 0:00:48]} Ree7 {
[%emt 0:02:31]} 55. Rdd3 {[%emt 0:01:42]} Rh8 {[%emt 0:04:57]} 56. Rb1 {
[%emt 0:00:56]} Rhh7 {[%emt 0:03:28]} 57. b5 {[%emt 0:00:42]} cxb5 {[%emt 0:00:
11]} 58. Rxb5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} d4 {[%emt 0:03:54]} 59. Rb6 {[%emt 0:01:23]} Rc7
{[%emt 0:00:11]} 60. Nxe6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rc3 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 61. Nf4 {
[%emt 0:05:35]} Rhc7 {[%emt 0:03:51]} 62. Nd5 {[%emt 0:06:27]} Rxd3 {[%emt 0:
01:59]} 63. Nxc7 {[%emt 0:01:01]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 64. Nb5 {[%emt 0:01:29]}
Kc8 {[%emt 0:00:15]} 65. Rxg6 {[%emt 0:07:39]} Rxf3 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 66. Kg2 {
[%emt 0:01:22]} Rb3 {[%emt 0:02:21]} 67. Nd6+ {[%emt 0:00:24]} Nxd6 {[%emt 0:
00:03]} 68. Rxd6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Re3 {[%emt 0:01:16]} 69. e6 {[%emt 0:00:36]}
Kc7 {[%emt 0:07:43]} 70. Rxd4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Rxe6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 71. Rd5 {
[%emt 0:00:14]} Rh6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 72. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:35]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:01:
56]} 73. Kf4 {[%emt 0:00:18]} Ka7 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 74. Kg5 {[%emt 0:01:14]} Rh8
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 75. Kf6 {[%emt 0:00:19]} 1-0

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Re: WCC 2016 thread

Post by Jouni » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:39 pm

So claims, that 20. -Nxf2+ is not instant draw? Of course it was.
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