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Coffee house player

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:03 pm
by Look
Hi,

Who is a "coffee house player" ?

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:22 pm
by velmarin
The one who is more aware of coffee than of the game. :mrgreen:

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:07 pm
by chrisw
Look wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:03 pm
Hi,

Who is a "coffee house player" ?
Well, me, once upon a time ....

https://www.gettyimages.fr/detail/photo ... /103095306

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:32 pm
by Look
velmarin wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:22 pm
The one who is more aware of coffee than of the game. :mrgreen:
Yet worse than this ?

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:38 pm
by Look
chrisw wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:07 pm
Look wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:03 pm
Hi,

Who is a "coffee house player" ?
Well, me, once upon a time ....

https://www.gettyimages.fr/detail/photo ... /103095306
So you gave up coffee house playing, what about the rest of coffee house players ?

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:28 pm
by chrisw
Look wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:38 pm
chrisw wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:07 pm
Look wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:03 pm
Hi,

Who is a "coffee house player" ?
Well, me, once upon a time ....

https://www.gettyimages.fr/detail/photo ... /103095306
So you gave up coffee house playing, what about the rest of coffee house players ?
The Eastern Europe refugees from WW2 that kept it alive back in those days are probably all dead by now. The cafe was sold by its Greek Cypriot owner because he retired, and the new owners turned it into a Pizza restaurant, no chess, about 1980 something, I think. It's still there, Orwell plaque on the outside, as a trendy cafe-restaurant. Moishe, the egg man, because he sold eggs, who I was playing, carried on selling eggs. A few of the strong players carried on playing chess for clubs, and the casual players dispersed, as did the social community that existed around the chess cafe. It was also a philosophy-politics centre because of its international clientele and the part of London it was in, chess cafe society is a more a European thing.

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:50 pm
by Look
chrisw wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:28 pm
Look wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:38 pm
chrisw wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:07 pm
Look wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:03 pm
Hi,

Who is a "coffee house player" ?
Well, me, once upon a time ....

https://www.gettyimages.fr/detail/photo ... /103095306
So you gave up coffee house playing, what about the rest of coffee house players ?
The Eastern Europe refugees from WW2 that kept it alive back in those days are probably all dead by now. The cafe was sold by its Greek Cypriot owner because he retired, and the new owners turned it into a Pizza restaurant, no chess, about 1980 something, I think. It's still there, Orwell plaque on the outside, as a trendy cafe-restaurant. Moishe, the egg man, because he sold eggs, who I was playing, carried on selling eggs. A few of the strong players carried on playing chess for clubs, and the casual players dispersed, as did the social community that existed around the chess cafe. It was also a philosophy-politics centre because of its international clientele and the part of London it was in, chess cafe society is a more a European thing.
IMO not everyone who plays in a cafe is a coffee house player and not all coffee house players play in cafe.

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:53 pm
by Nordlandia
"Coffee House Compensation" e.g. two pawns and a check for a piece) for the side which made the last move.

Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:02 am
by MikeB
Look wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:03 pm
Hi,

Who is a "coffee house player" ?
coffeehouse player:
Used to describe a player characterized by risky, and usually dubious play that sets traps for the opponent. The name comes from the notion that one would expect to see such play in skittles games played in a coffeehouse or similar setting, particularly in games played for stakes or blitz chess. The Blackburne Shilling Gambit is a typical example of an opening that would be used by a coffeehouse player.



Just don't play 4.Nxe5 or else black is winning.
One potential line goes like this.


Re: Coffee house player

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:30 pm
by Uri Blass
MikeB wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:02 am
Look wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:03 pm
Hi,

Who is a "coffee house player" ?
coffeehouse player:
Used to describe a player characterized by risky, and usually dubious play that sets traps for the opponent. The name comes from the notion that one would expect to see such play in skittles games played in a coffeehouse or similar setting, particularly in games played for stakes or blitz chess. The Blackburne Shilling Gambit is a typical example of an opening that would be used by a coffeehouse player.



Just don't play 4.Nxe5 or else black is winning.
One potential line goes like this.



4.Nxe5 is a mistake but not sure that black is winning after Qg5 5.Bxf7+ Kd8 6.0-0 Qxe5 7.c3.