King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

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King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by Dann Corbit » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:53 am



Interestingly, Houdini 6 Tactical finds the move in two minutes and a fairly convincing score in under 6 minutes.

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Analysis of Q:\smackdown.epd   
2019-01-11 7:25:21 PM Level: 600 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Houdini 6 Tactical 1

 1                      
    Avoid move: 
    Best move (Houdini 6 Tactical 1): Bf7-h5
    Not found in: 10:00
    11/28	00:00	   1,334,534	9,532,000	-0.26	Qe6 Bxc6 hxg3 Rxg3 Qxc6 Ne5 Qf6 Rcg1 b6 Bb4 c5 Nxf7 Kxf7
    12/28	00:00	   2,047,258	10,185,000	-0.27	Qe6 Bxc6 hxg3 Rxg3 Qxc6 Ne5 Qf6 Rcg1 Kh8 R1g2 Rg8 Bb4 b6 f4 exf3
    13/32	00:01	   5,234,073	9,969,000	-0.04	Qe6 Bxc6 hxg3 Rxg3 Qxc6 Ne5 Qf6 Rcg1 Kh8 R1g2 c6 Bb4 Rg8 Rg5 Bh5 Kg1 Bf3
    14/32	00:01	  11,737,034	10,699,000	+0.02	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 g4 Bxg4 Bb4 Nxb4 axb4 a3 bxa3 Rxa3 Qc5 Kh7
    15/36	00:02	  21,084,187	11,674,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 f4 Rcg1 fxe3 Rxg7+ Kh8 fxe3 Qxe3 Qf5 f2 Rg8+ Rxg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qf8+ Kh7
    16/36	00:02	  24,114,873	11,694,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 f4 Rcg1 fxe3 Rxg7+ Kh8 fxe3 Qxe3 Qf5 f2 Rg8+ Rxg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qf8+ Kh7
    17/36	00:03	  27,853,932	11,364,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 f4 Rcg1 fxe3 Rxg7+ Kh8 fxe3 Qxe3 Qf5 f2 Rg8+ Rxg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qf8+ Kh7
    18/36	00:03	  34,571,787	10,588,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 f4 Rcg1 fxe3 Rxg7+ Kh8 fxe3 Qxe3 Qf5 f2 Rg8+ Rxg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qf8+ Kh7
    19/36	00:04	  47,162,437	10,827,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 f4 Rcg1 fxe3 Rxg7+ Kh8 fxe3 Qxe3 Qf5 f2 Rg8+ Rxg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qf8+ Kh7
    20/51	00:05	  49,202,857	10,868,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 f4 Rcg1 fxe3 Rxg7+ Kh8 fxe3 Qxe3 Qf5 f2 Rg8+ Rxg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qf8+ Kh7
    20/51	00:05	  56,226,571	10,983,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 f4 Rcg1 fxe3 Rxg7+ Kh8 fxe3 Qxe3 Qf5 f2 Rg8+ Rxg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qf8+ Kh7
    21/57+	00:07	  77,311,794	11,240,000	+0.07	Qe6
    21/57-	00:07	  77,358,949	11,234,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6
    21/57	00:08	  87,785,342	11,157,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Rxh2 Qxf3 Rxf2 Rxg7+ Kxg7 Kxf2 Qh2+ Qg2+ Qxg2+ Kxg2 Re8 Bb4 Rxe3 Rxc6 Nxb4 axb4 Re2+ Kf3 Rxb2 Rxc7+ Kf6
    21/57	00:08	  87,871,907	11,154,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Rxh2 Qxf3 Rxf2 Rxg7+ Kxg7 Kxf2 Qh2+ Qg2+ Qxg2+ Kxg2 Re8 Bb4 Rxe3 Rxc6 Nxb4 axb4 Re2+ Kf3 Rxb2 Rxc7+ Kf6
    22/57	00:09	  94,141,603	10,983,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Rxh2 Qxf3 Rxf2 Rxg7+ Kxg7 Kxf2 Qh2+ Qg2+ Qxg2+ Kxg2 Re8 Bb4 Rxe3 Rxc6 Nxb4 axb4 Re2+ Kf3 Rxb2 Rxc7+ Kf6
    22/57	00:47	 323,956,072	6,923,000	 0.00	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Rxh2 Qxf3 Rxf2 Rxg7+ Kxg7 Kxf2 Qh2+ Qg2+ Qxg2+ Kxg2 Re8 Bb4 Rxe3 Rxc6 Nxb4 axb4 Re2+ Kf3 Rxb2 Rxc7+ Kf6
    23/57+	00:53	 353,693,259	6,687,000	+0.07	Qe6
    23/57	00:57	 384,210,890	6,703,000	+0.13	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Re8 Rg6 Nxe3 Rxh6 Nxf5 Rxh4 Nxh4 Bb4 Nf5 Rxc6 Re2 h3 Rxb2 d5 Rb1+ Kh2 Rf1 Rc2 Nd4 Rxc7 Rxf2+
    23/57	01:24	 662,482,933	7,930,000	+0.13	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Bh5 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Re8 Rg6 Nxe3 Rxh6 Nxf5 Rxh4 Nxh4 Bb4 Nf5 Rxc6 Re2 h3 Rxb2 d5 Rb1+ Kh2 Rf1 Rc2 Nd4 Rxc7 Rxf2+
    24/57-	01:24	 666,652,552	7,947,000	+0.06	Qe6 Bxc6
    24/57+	01:57	1,044,097,315	8,936,000	+0.13	Qe6
    24/57-	01:57	1,044,165,665	8,936,000	+0.06	Qe6 Bxc6
    24/57+	01:59	1,064,022,949	8,938,000	+0.14	Qe6
    24/57-	02:00	1,072,450,905	8,952,000	+0.02	Qe6 Bxc6
    24/57	02:03	1,116,226,794	9,048,000	+0.11	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Re8 Rg6 Nxe3 Rxh6 Nxf5 Rxh4 Nxh4 Bb4 Re6 Rc5 Ng2 Rf5 Rf6 Rxf6 gxf6 h3 Nf4 Kh2 Ne2
    24/57	02:03	1,116,565,932	9,048,000	+0.11	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Re8 Rg6 Nxe3 Rxh6 Nxf5 Rxh4 Nxh4 Bb4 Re6 Rc5 Ng2 Rf5 Rf6 Rxf6 gxf6 h3 Nf4 Kh2 Ne2
    25/57+	02:05	1,138,392,403	9,098,000	+0.18	Bh5
    25/57-	02:05	1,139,358,923	9,100,000	+0.11	Bh5 Ne5
    25/57-	02:10	1,192,608,305	9,203,000	 0.00	Bh5 Ne5
    25/57+	02:37	1,465,061,074	9,336,000	+0.09	Bh5
    25/57	02:40	1,501,826,898	9,378,000	+0.21	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 Be7 hxg3 Kg1 gxf2+ Kxf2 Bxg2 Bxf6 c6 Bg5 Rg6 h4 Bf3 Rg1 Ra5 Qc2 Re6 Rg3 Bg4 Kg1 Kh7 Kh1 Rb5 Qf2 Rb3
    25/57	02:40	1,503,900,316	9,380,000	+0.21	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 Be7 hxg3 Kg1 gxf2+ Kxf2 Bxg2 Bxf6 c6 Bg5 Rg6 h4 Bf3 Rg1 Ra5 Qc2 Re6 Rg3 Bg4 Kg1 Kh7 Kh1 Rb5 Qf2 Rb3
    26/57+	02:48	1,589,415,596	9,481,000	+0.28	Bh5
    26/57-	02:49	1,600,290,013	9,491,000	+0.21	Bh5 Ne5
    26/57-	02:51	1,624,286,890	9,521,000	+0.10	Bh5 Ne5
    26/59+	02:57	1,698,686,628	9,624,000	+0.19	Bh5
    26/59+	03:07	1,785,133,050	9,574,000	+0.39	Bh5
    26/59-	03:09	1,807,703,532	9,553,000	+0.23	Bh5 Ne5
    26/59	03:11	1,820,803,008	9,529,000	+0.17	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kf7 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Rg1 Rah8 Kf1 Rxh2 Bb4 Rh1 Kg2 Rxg1+ Kxg1 g5 Bd2 b6 Qxa4 Rh4 Qc6 f4 Bb4 Kg6
    26/59	03:12	1,820,919,344	9,528,000	+0.17	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kf7 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Rg1 Rah8 Kf1 Rxh2 Bb4 Rh1 Kg2 Rxg1+ Kxg1 g5 Bd2 b6 Qxa4 Rh4 Qc6 f4 Bb4 Kg6
    27/59+	03:24	1,907,552,284	9,336,000	+0.24	Bh5
    27/59+	03:34	2,009,014,312	9,380,000	+0.31	Bh5
    27/59+	04:38	2,805,154,082	10,083,000	+0.56	Bh5
    27/70-	04:44	2,884,565,973	10,146,000	+0.44	Bh5 Ne5
    27/70	05:01	3,096,738,238	10,298,000	+0.50	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 Kf7 Rg1 Rah8 Kf1 Rxh2 Bb4 Rh1 Rxh1 Rxh1+ Kg2 Rd1 Ba5 b6 Qc2 Rd3 Bd2 g5 Bc1 f4 Qxa4 f3+ Kg1
    27/70	05:01	3,102,013,907	10,302,000	+0.50	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 Kf7 Rg1 Rah8 Kf1 Rxh2 Bb4 Rh1 Rxh1 Rxh1+ Kg2 Rd1 Ba5 b6 Qc2 Rd3 Bd2 g5 Bc1 f4 Qxa4 f3+ Kg1
    28/70+	05:55	3,707,404,953	10,448,000	+0.57	Bh5
    28/70-	05:58	3,727,514,874	10,410,000	+0.50	Bh5 Ne5
    28/70+	06:41	4,176,227,155	10,403,000	+0.57	Bh5
    28/70	07:01	4,385,687,592	10,411,000	+0.56	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kf7 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Bb4 Rah8 Rg1 Rxh2+ Kf1 Rh1 Rxh1 Rxh1+ Kg2 Rd1 Ba5 b6 Qc2 Rd3 Bd2 g5 Bc1 Kg6 Qxa4 f4 Kf1 Kf5 Kg1 g4
    28/70	07:02	4,388,884,753	10,412,000	+0.56	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kf7 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Bb4 Rah8 Rg1 Rxh2+ Kf1 Rh1 Rxh1 Rxh1+ Kg2 Rd1 Ba5 b6 Qc2 Rd3 Bd2 g5 Bc1 Kg6 Qxa4 f4 Kf1 Kf5 Kg1 g4
    29/70+	08:27	5,348,723,002	10,548,000	+0.63	Bh5
    29/70-	08:39	5,470,680,904	10,549,000	+0.56	Bh5 Ne5
   2019-01-11 7:35:24 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
2019-01-11 7:35:25 PM, Total time: 12:10:04 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds
Also, Andscacs solves it in one second and never wavers on the key move, but does not find a convincing score within 10 minutes:

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Analysis of Q:\smackdown.epd   
2019-01-11 7:25:21 PM Level: 1800 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Andscacs

 1                      
    Avoid move: 
    Best move (Andscacs): Bf7-h5
    Not found in: 10:00
    10/19	00:00	     263,967	4,474,016	-0.97	Qe6 g4 fxg4 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Qf5 Rxg4 Bh5 Rg2
    10/14	00:00	     319,310	4,695,735	-0.88	Qe6 Bxc6 hxg3 Rxg3 Qxc6 Rcg1 g6 Ne5 Qb5 Nxg6 Rxg6 Rxg6+ Bxg6 Rxg6+ Kf7 Rg5 Qf1+ Rg1 Qh3
    11/19	00:00	     603,744	5,538,935	-0.92	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Nf6 gxh4 Bh5 h3 Bf3+ Kh2 Rxh4 Nxf3 exf3 Qd3
    11/13	00:00	     661,749	5,560,915	-0.92	Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 Ne5 Nf6 gxh4 Bh5 h3 Bf3+ Kh2 Rxh4 Nxf3 exf3 Qd3
    12/19+	00:00	     711,327	5,736,508	-0.76	Qe6
    12/24	00:00	     815,943	5,828,164	-0.86	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 Bxg2+ Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 c6 Bd6
    12/24	00:00	   1,184,964	6,269,650	-0.70	Qe6 Bxc6 Qxc6 Ne5 Qf6 g4 g5 Bb4 Be6 gxf5 Bxf5 b3 Kh8 bxa4 Rd8 a5 Rh7
    13/27	00:00	   1,615,298	6,702,481	-0.56	Qe6 Bxc6 Qxc6 Ne5 Qe6 g4 b6 Bb4 c5 Bc3 g6 Rcd1 g5 gxf5 Qxf5 dxc5 bxc5
    13/23	00:00	   2,162,590	6,822,050	-0.68	Qe6 Bxc6 Qxc6 Ne5 Qe6 g4 b6 Bb4 c5 Bc3 fxg4 Qxe4 Bh5 dxc5 bxc5 Rcd1 Rd8
     13	00:00	   2,161,908	6,819,899	-0.68	Qe6 Bxc6 Qxc6 Ne5 Qe6 g4 b6 Bb4 c5 Bc3 fxg4 Qxe4 Bh5 dxc5 bxc5 Rcd1 Rd8
    14/25+	00:00	   2,383,766	6,849,902	-0.52	Qe6
    14/26	00:00	   2,860,218	6,777,767	-0.64	Qe6 Bxc6 Qxc6 Ne5 Qe6 g4 b6 Bb4 c5 Nxf7 Qxf7 dxc5 Rc6 gxf5 Qxf5 Qe2 Rd8
     14	00:00	   2,860,119	6,761,510	-0.64	Qe6 Bxc6 Qxc6 Ne5 Qe6 g4 b6 Bb4 c5 Nxf7 Qxf7 dxc5 Rc6 gxf5 Qxf5 Qe2 Rd8
     15	00:00	   4,426,030	6,904,882	-0.65	Qe6 Bxc6 hxg3 Rxg3 Qxc6 Rcg1 Qf6 Ne5 g6 h3 b6 Bb4 c5 Bc3 Nxc3 Qxc3 cxd4
    16/16	00:01	   5,736,381	6,235,196	-0.53	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Rxh2 Qxf3 Rxf2 Rxg7+ Kxg7 Kxf2 Qh2+ Qg2+ Qxg2+ Kxg2 Nxe3+ Kf2 Nd5
    17/31+	00:01	   7,047,075	5,715,389	-0.21	Bh5
    17/34	00:01	   7,130,344	5,722,587	-0.22	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Rxh2 Qxf3 Rxf2 Rxg7+ Kxg7 Kxf2 Qh2+ Qg2+ Qxg2+ Kxg2 Re8 Re1 Rxe3 Rxe3 Nxe3+ Kf3 Nc4 Bb4
    17/20	00:01	   7,152,351	5,703,629	-0.22	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Rg5 Rxh4 Qxf5 Qh6 Kg1 Rxh2 Qxf3 Rxf2 Rxg7+ Kxg7 Kxf2 Qh2+ Qg2+ Qxg2+ Kxg2 Re8 Re1 Rxe3 Rxe3 Nxe3+ Kf3 Nc4
    18/34	00:01	   8,606,629	5,369,076	-0.31	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 Rg1 Rxb2 h3 Rb1 Rxb1 Qxb1+ Kh2 Qe4 Rg3
    18/25	00:01	   8,527,094	5,286,481	-0.31	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 Rg1 Rxb2 h3 Rb1 Rxb1 Qxb1+ Kh2 Qe4
    19/30	00:01	   8,898,784	5,383,414	-0.27	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 h3 Rxb2 Kg1 Rc2 Rxc2 Qxc2
    19/28	00:01	   9,777,702	5,223,131	-0.31	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 Rg1 Rxb2 h3 Rb1 Rxb1 Qxb1+ Kh2
    20/30	00:02	  10,305,823	5,204,961	-0.23	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 h3 Rxb2 Kg1 Re2 Kh2 Rb2
    20/37	00:02	  13,104,161	4,992,061	-0.22	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 h3 Rxb2 Rg1 Nf6 Bb4 Kh8 Qg3 Ng4 Rc1
    20/27	00:02	  13,003,602	4,899,623	-0.22	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 h3 Rxb2 Rg1 Nf6 Bb4 Kh8 Qg3 Ng4 Rc1
     21	00:04	  21,343,429	5,196,841	-0.38	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Bb4 Qe4 Rg6 f4 Qg4 Kh8 Rgxc6 Re8 R6c5 Nxe3 fxe3 f2+ Qg2 fxe3
    22/33+	00:06	  36,330,032	5,521,281	-0.06	Bh5
    22/32	00:07	  37,295,297	5,326,377	-0.35	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rg5 Rb8 Rxf5 Qh3 e4 Rh4 Rg5 Nf4 Rxg7+ Kh8 Rg3 Qg2+ Qxg2 fxg2+ Rxg2 Nxg2 Kxg2 Rxe4 Bb4
    23/32+	00:07	  39,685,929	5,574,649	-0.19	Bh5
    23/50	00:08	  47,837,131	5,581,928	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Qe4 Qg2 Rb8 Rg1 Rxb2 h3 Nf6 Kh2 Rb8 Rf1 Ng4+ Kg1 Nf6 Kh2
    24/38	00:09	  53,589,766	5,681,696	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rxf3 Rb8 Qg2 Qe4 Rg1 Rxb2 h3 Nf6 Kh2 Rb8 Rf1 Rb2 Rg1
     25	00:21	 111,920,223	5,335,886	-0.30	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rg5 f4 Rg4 Qh6 e4 Nf6 Rg6 Qh3 Rxf6 Qg2+ Qxg2 fxg2+ Kxg2 gxf6 Bb4 Re8 Rxc6 Rxe4 Rxf6 Rf7 Ra6 f3+ Kg3 Rxd4
    26/42	00:22	 117,311,615	5,144,343	-0.30	Bh5 Ne5 Qe6 Bxc6 bxc6 gxh4 Bf3+ Nxf3 exf3 Qd1 Qe4 Rg3 Qxh4 Qg1 Rh7 Rg5 f4 Rg4 Qh6 e4 Nf6 Rg6 Qh3 Rxf6 Qg2+ Qxg2 fxg2+ Kxg2 gxf6 Bb4 Re8 Rxc6 Rxe4
    27/49	00:48	 195,949,692	4,031,969	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kf7 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Bb4 g5 Rg1 Kg6 Qb5 Rah8 Kf1 Rxh2 Qxb7 R8h3 Rg2 Rh1+ Rg1 R1h2
    27/43	00:50	 202,485,404	4,026,915	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kf7 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Bb4 g5 Rg1 Rah8 Kf1 Kg6 Qb5 Rxh2 Qxb7 R8h3 Rg2 Rh1+ Rg1 R1h2
    28/40	00:51	 214,578,176	4,173,860	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kh8 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qb5 f4 Kg1 Rd8 Bb4 Rg4+ Kh1 Rh4 Kg1
    28/46	00:58	 255,741,842	4,400,995	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kh8 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qb5 f4 Kg1 Rd8 Bb4 Rg4+ Kh1 Rh4 Kg1
    29/45	00:59	 266,611,661	4,521,217	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kh8 Kg1 Rxh4 Rg3 f4 exf4 Nxf4 Rc2 Ng4 Qf7 Rxh2 Rxf3 Rg2+ Kh1 Rh2+ Kg1
    29/43	01:07	 316,283,616	4,703,591	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kh8 Kg1 Rxh4 Rg3 f4 exf4 Nxf4 Rc2 Ng4 Qf7 Rxh2 Rxf3 Rg2+ Kh1 Rh2+ Kg1
    30/47	01:08	 328,546,822	4,804,158	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kh8 Kg1 Rxh4 Rg3 f4 exf4 Nxf4 Rc2 Ng4 Qf7 Rxh2 Rxf3 Rg2+ Kh1 Rh2+ Kg1
    30/46	01:21	 407,627,075	5,031,377	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kh8 Kg1 Rxh4 Rg3 f4 exf4 Nxf4 Rc2 Ng4 Qf7 Rxh2 Rxf3 Rg2+ Kh1 Rh2+ Kg1
    31/46	01:22	 423,678,968	5,143,857	-0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 Qc4 N7f6 gxh4 Kh8 Kg1 Rxh4 Rg3 f4 exf4 Nxf4 Rc2 Ng4 Qf7 Rxh2 Rxf3 Rg2+ Kh1 Rh2+ Kg1
    32/53+	02:07	 724,797,109	5,693,838	+0.15	Bh5
    32/55	02:37	 918,893,209	5,847,013	+0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 Kf7 Rh1 f4 exf4 Rg4+ Kf1 e3 fxe3 Re8 h3 Rg3 Bb4 Rexe3 Bd2 Rgf3+ Kg1 Rg3+ Kf1
    32/47	03:11	1,146,183,882	5,977,210	+0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 Kf7 Rh1 f4 exf4 Rg4+ Kf1 e3 fxe3 Re8 h3 Rg3 Bb4 Rexe3 Bd2 Rgf3+ Kg1 Rg3+ Kf1
    33/53	03:20	1,207,110,580	6,037,364	+0.01	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 Kf7 Rh1 f4 exf4 Rg4+ Kf1 e3 fxe3 Re8 h3 Rg3 Bb4 Rexe3 Bd2 Rgf3+ Kg1 Rg3+ Kf1
    33/60	04:57	1,539,021,332	5,179,919	+0.16	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Qc4 Kf7 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 h3 Rah8 Rh1 b6 Bb4 g5 Bd2 g4 Qxa4 gxh3+ Kf1 h2 Qc6 Rg4 Qc4 Rh3 Qa4 Rh6 Qc6 Rg8 Bb4 Rh3 b3 f4 exf4 Re8
    34/61+	06:31	1,950,213,867	4,984,865	+0.32	Bh5
    34/64	07:39	2,131,651,587	4,637,331	+0.16	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 Kf7 Rh1 Rah8 Kf1 f4 exf4 Rxf4 Ke1 Rf3 Bb4 Rb3 Qc1 Rhh3 Qc2 g6 Qc5 g5 Qc2 Nxb4 axb4 c6 Rg1 Rxh2 Rxg5 Rh1+ Ke2 Rxb4
    34/49	09:56	2,453,915,629	4,117,605	+0.16	Bh5 Ne5 Nxe5 Bxd7 Bf3+ Rg2 Nxd7 gxh4 N7f6 Kg1 Bxg2 Kxg2 Rxh4 Qc4 Kf7 Rh1 Rah8 Kf1 f4 exf4 Rxf4 Ke1 Rf3 Bb4 Rb3 Qc1 Rhh3 Qc2 g6 Qc5 g5 Qc2 Nxb4 axb4 c6 Rg1 Rxh2 Rxg5 Rh1+ Ke2 Rxb4
   2019-01-11 7:45:56 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
2019-01-11 7:45:57 PM, Total time: 12:20:36 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds
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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by AdminX » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:18 am

Leela sees it instantly.

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Analysis by Lc0 v0.21.0-Dev:

1. -/+ (-1.01): 1...Bh5 2.Nd2 Qd8 3.Bc4 Kh8 4.Bxd5 Qxd5 5.gxh4 Bg4 6.Qc4 Qd7 7.Bb4 Re8 8.Qb5 Qf7 9.Bc3 Rxh4 10.Rg2 Qh5 11.Rcg1 Re6 12.d5 Rh6 13.Nf1 Ne7 
2. =/+ (-0.49): 1...Qe6 2.Bxc6 Qxc6 3.Ne5 Qe6 4.Bb4 Bh5 5.gxh4 Bg4 6.Rg3 Rxh4 7.Rcg1 c6 8.R1g2 Nf6 9.Kg1 Nh5 10.Nxg4 Nxg3 
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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by Dann Corbit » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:26 am

With a big score. That's pretty amazing
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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by elcabesa » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:15 pm

can someone explain what's the story of this position and why Bh5 is winning? Stockfish for example like hxg3 or Qe6.

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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by Nordlandia » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:14 pm

Stockfish dev can't find anything better than this line



QB vs NNR imbalance which is drawish.

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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by MikeGL » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:11 am

Nordlandia wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:14 pm
Stockfish dev can't find anything better than this line



QB vs NNR imbalance which is drawish.
Looks like there is a strong bind against whites position on your above PV from SF10.
I tried to analyze your line further and black could win on a long maneouvre.



Which will end up with this:


then traced the best lines further and could end up like this where black might be able to pull off a win.


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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by zullil » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:06 pm

MikeGL wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:11 am
Nordlandia wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:14 pm
Stockfish dev can't find anything better than this line



QB vs NNR imbalance which is drawish.
Looks like there is a strong bind against whites position on your above PV from SF10.
I tried to analyze your line further and black could win on a long maneouvre.

5...Rg6 is weak. Also, "drawish" by Nordlandia is not a good word for his PV position.

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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by Javier Ros » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:55 pm

Game played from the King Solomon's position, Stockfish 10 (4 cores i7 7700H) -Lc0 32367 GTX1070 5 minutes plus 3 sec.


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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by Javier Ros » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:25 pm

Although Black's victory is not as clear as it may seem from the previous game.

Game between the same players Stockfish 10 (6 cores i7 4790S)-Lc0 32367 RXT 2070 at 15 minutes plus 3 sec.

[pgn][Event "KSolomon"]
[Site "J-PC"]
[Date "2019.01.13"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish_10_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Lc0201_32367"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[Time "23:43:56"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "900+3"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r5k1/1ppq1bp1/2n4r/1BBn1p2/p1NPp2p/P3P1P1/1PQ2P1P/2R3RK b - - 0 1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "199"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. ... Bh5 {+1.44/13 14} 2. Ne5 {0.00/33 20} Nxe5 {+1.55/20 13} 3. Bxd7
{+0.04/27 9} Bf3+ {+1.57/20 10} 4. Rg2 {+0.04/1 0} Nxd7 {+1.63/19 13} 5.
gxh4 {0.00/33 14} N7f6 {+1.67/21 16} 6. Kg1 {0.00/29 11} Bxg2 {+1.68/19 6}
7. Kxg2 {0.00/33 15} Rxh4 {+1.71/19 0} 8. Qc4 {0.00/33 11} Kf7 {+1.84/18
40} 9. Rh1 {0.00/33 28} Rah8 {+1.79/16 61} 10. Qxa4 {0.00/33 8} g5
{+1.80/16 18} 11. Bb4 {-0.65/32 54} f4 {+1.52/16 9} 12. exf4 {-0.64/29 6}
gxf4 {+1.57/17 8} 13. Bd2 {-0.29/30 16} Rh3 {+1.77/19 21} 14. Kf1 {-0.28/33
47} e3 {+1.77/19 7} 15. fxe3 {-0.34/30 9} fxe3 {+1.79/17 9} 16. Bc3
{-0.48/32 19} Nf4 {+2.24/22 34} 17. d5 {-1.45/35 73} R8h4 {+2.25/21 0} 18.
Qb5 {-1.44/33 47} Rxh2 {+2.43/26 29} 19. Rxh2 {-0.69/27 5} Rxh2 {+2.25/31
18} 20. Kg1 {-1.38/32 23} Rg2+ {+2.19/30 7} 21. Kh1 {-1.38/33 9} Kg6
{+2.11/29 15} 22. d6 {-2.68/35 91} cxd6 {+2.05/27 6} 23. Qxb7 {-2.83/34 36}
Rf2 {+2.05/19 0} 24. Qc8 {-3.39/37 32} e2 {+2.01/19 0} 25. Qd8 {-3.60/33
10} N6d5 {+1.86/25 115} 26. Qxd6+ {-0.09/37 6} Kf5 {+1.77/24 54} 27. Qe5+
{-0.09/41 11} Kg4 {+1.75/19 0} 28. Qg7+ {-0.09/43 9} Kh3 {+1.64/22 35} 29.
Qh7+ {0.00/39 6} Kg4 {+1.72/19 11} 30. Qg8+ {0.00/40 14} Kf5 {+2.06/19 22}
31. Qh7+ {0.00/42 9} Kg5 {+2.02/24 7} 32. Qg8+ {0.00/42 8} Kf5 {+1.78/22
18} 33. Qh7+ {0.00/40 7} Kg4 {+1.71/21 9} 34. Qg8+ {0.00/44 33} Kf3
{+1.76/19 25} 35. Be1 {0.00/43 8} Rg2 {+1.64/20 21} 36. Qf7 {0.00/43 12}
Rf2 {+1.55/19 16} 37. Qg8 {0.00/45 9} Rg2 {+1.50/17 26} 38. Qf7 {0.00/39 7}
Rg6 {+1.50/17 0} 39. a4 {0.00/40 10} Rh6+ {+1.39/16 42} 40. Kg1 {0.00/44 8}
Rc6 {+1.36/17 25} 41. Kh2 {0.00/41 6} Ne3 {+1.31/21 22} 42. Qb7 {-0.09/36
11} Ng4+ {+1.69/17 12} 43. Kh1 {-0.09/40 13} Ne5 {+1.83/16 14} 44. b4
{-0.09/42 8} Ke3 {+1.50/18 21} 45. Qg7 {-0.09/38 8} Ke4 {+1.53/16 24} 46.
Qb7 {-0.09/41 8} Kd4 {+1.71/16 12} 47. Qa7+ {0.00/39 14} Ke4 {+1.60/18 22}
48. Qb7 {0.00/40 8} Kd4 {+1.50/19 8} 49. Qa7+ {0.00/40 7} Kd3 {+1.42/24 5}
50. Qh7+ {0.00/40 8} Ke3 {+1.41/22 6} 51. Qa7+ {0.00/40 9} Kf3 {+1.38/21 5}
52. Qb7 {0.00/43 9} Kg4 {+1.37/21 7} 53. Qg7+ {0.00/41 6} Kf5 {+1.37/19 0}
54. Qh7+ {0.00/38 6} Kg4 {+1.34/22 22} 55. Qg7+ {0.00/43 12} Kf5 {+1.32/23
0} 56. Qh7+ {0.00/38 10} Rg6 {+1.28/14 0} 57. a5 {0.00/35 7} Ned3 {+1.27/14
0} 58. Qf7+ {0.00/35 7} Ke4 {+1.16/20 55} 59. Qe7+ {0.00/35 6} Kf3
{+1.16/17 7} 60. Qb7+ {0.00/39 11} Ke3 {+1.10/18 3} 61. Qe7+ {0.00/32 5}
Re6 {+1.04/18 4} 62. Qa7+ {0.00/39 4} Ke4 {+0.96/17 7} 63. Qb7+ {0.00/39 5}
Kf5 {+1.00/16 5} 64. Qh7+ {0.00/39 8} Kg4 {+0.93/16 2} 65. Qg7+ {0.00/38 4}
Rg6 {+0.89/17 6} 66. Qd7+ {0.00/39 4} Kf3 {+0.78/17 7} 67. Qb7+ {0.00/40 4}
Kg4 {+0.78/16 1} 68. Qd7+ {0.00/37 6} Re6 {+0.73/17 1} 69. Qg7+ {0.00/40 5}
Kf3 {+0.68/17 4} 70. Qb7+ {0.00/35 4} Ke3 {+0.64/17 4} 71. Qa7+ {0.00/39 7}
Kf3 {+0.63/15 0} 72. Qb7+ {0.00/40 3} Re4 {+0.61/17 1} 73. Bd2 {0.00/35 4}
Kg4 {+0.55/18 10} 74. Qg7+ {0.00/38 6} Kf3 {+0.47/18 4} 75. Qb7 {0.00/42
30} Kg4 {+0.47/17 0} 76. Qg7+ {0.00/33 6} Kh3 {+0.47/16 0} 77. Qh7+
{0.00/40 4} Kg3 {+0.41/14 4} 78. Qg7+ {0.00/39 6} Kf2 {+0.21/11 7} 79. a6
{0.00/39 5} Re5 {+0.43/15 2} 80. Qxe5 {0.00/34 2} Nxe5 {+0.25/16 1} 81. a7
{0.00/37 2} Nc4 {+0.17/14 4} 82. a8=Q {0.00/39 4} Nxd2 {+0.14/12 0} 83.
Qa7+ {0.00/41 4} Kf3 {+0.14/11 1} 84. Qa1 {0.00/43 3} Nd3 {+0.10/9 5} 85.
b5 {0.00/39 5} Nb3 {+0.08/7 4} 86. Qf6+ {0.00/37 2} Ke3 {+0.10/10 3} 87.
Qg5+ {0.00/38 6} Kf3 {+0.10/9 4} 88. Qd5+ {0.00/39 3} Ke3 {+0.06/7 3} 89.
Qg5+ {0.00/40 2} Kf3 {+0.07/7 2} 90. Qf6+ {0.00/37 6} Ke3 {+0.07/6 3} 91.
Qh6+ {0.00/36 7} Ke4 {+0.06/8 3} 92. Qh4+ {0.00/36 3} Kf3 {+0.05/6 3} 93.
Qh3+ {0.00/41 3} Ke4 {+0.06/7 3} 94. Qh4+ {0.00/40 5} Ke3 {+0.03/5 2} 95.
b6 {0.00/38 3} Nbc5 {+0.02/6 2} 96. Qh6+ {0.00/39 5} Kd4 {+0.07/8 3} 97.
Qg7+ {0.00/38 1} Kd5 {+0.06/7 3} 98. Qg2+ {+3.25/34 1} Ne4 {+0.04/4 1} 99.
Qxe2 {+3.53/38 4} Ng3+ {0.00/1 0} 100. Kg2 {+3.63/36 1} Nxe2 {0.00/2 3
Arena Adjudication} 1/2-1/2

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Re: King Solomon's position, again (Andscacs & Houdini)

Post by Steve Maughan » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:08 pm

A development version of SF (Jan 6th) running on my fast laptop finds Qd8 with a reasonable score.



Engine: Stockfish 060119 64 BMI2 [6 Thread] (2048 MB)
by T. Romstad, M. Costalba, J. Kiiski, G.

38/73 1:15 0.00 1...Qe6 2.Bxc6 bxc6 3.Ne5 Bh5 4.gxh4 Bf3+
5.Nxf3 exf3 6.Rg5 Rxh4 7.Qxf5 Qh6
8.Kg1 Rxh2 9.Qxf3 Rh3 10.Rg3 Rxg3+
11.fxg3 Re8 12.Re1 Rxe3 13.Qf8+ Kh7
14.Qf5+ Qg6 (660.514.005) 8748
TB:4.915

39/30 1:31 0.00 1...Qe6 2.Bxc6 bxc6 3.Ne5 Bh5 4.gxh4 Bf3+
5.Nxf3 exf3 6.Rg5 Rxh4 7.Qxf5 Qh6
8.Kg1 Rxh2 9.Qxf3 Rh3 10.Rg3 Rxg3+
11.fxg3 Re8 12.Re1 Rxe3 13.Qf8+ Kh7
14.Qf5+ Qg6 (795.640.973) 8740
TB:4.999

40/49 2:30 -0.10++ 1...Qd8 (1.316.685.276) 8751
TB:8.534

40/63 2:38 -0.19++ 1...Qd8 (1.392.255.554) 8775
TB:18.333

40/63 2:47 -0.34++ 1...Qd8 (1.477.427.667) 8795
TB:20.047

40/63 2:57 -0.54++ 1...Qd8 (1.555.305.479) 8772
TB:20.244

40/63 3:32 -0.81++ 1...Qd8 (1.873.309.798) 8819
TB:20.374

40/63 3:46 -0.61 1...Qd8 2.g4 fxg4 3.Bxc6 bxc6 4.Ne5 Qf6
5.Rxg4 Re8 6.Kg1 Bh5 7.Qxe4 Bxg4
8.Qxg4 h3 9.Bb4 Nxb4 10.axb4 Rh4
11.Qg3 Re4 12.f4 Qf5 13.Rxc6 R8xe5
14.dxe5 Rxb4 (2.010.029.749) 8858
TB:21.521

41/57 4:37 -0.70++ 1...Qd8 (2.480.496.391) 8942
TB:31.293

41/57 4:55 -0.51-- 1...Qd8 2.g4 (2.647.609.029) 8971
TB:31.512

41/59 5:46 -0.65++ 1...Qd8 (3.132.828.122) 9047
TB:32.125

41/65 5:50 -0.37-- 1...Qd8 2.g4 (3.175.163.431) 9055
TB:32.160

41/65 6:31 -0.61++ 1...Qd8 (3.563.246.246) 9096
TB:32.364

41/69 6:53 -0.75 1...Qd8 2.g4 fxg4 3.Bxc6 bxc6 4.Ne5 Qf6
5.Rxg4 Re8 6.Rg2 Qf5 7.Rcg1 Rxe5
8.dxe5 Qf3 9.Qd1 Bh5 10.Qxf3 Bxf3
11.h3 Kf7 12.Kh2 Bxg2 13.Rxg2 Rg6
14.Rxg6 Kxg6 (3.770.924.839) 9110
TB:32.481
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