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Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:01 pm
by Dann Corbit
Nice that they have finally decided to adhere to their own charter and alternate between Europe and North America.
*cough*

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:08 pm
by Tony
Reread the charter, there's no such thing in it :twisted:

Tony

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:39 pm
by Dann Corbit
Tony wrote:Reread the charter, there's no such thing in it :twisted:

Tony
It must have been 'conveniently' rewritten then.
It has become the European championship, in reality.
Not that strong North American programs stay away in total, just that most of them do.

It would make sense to me to rotate by continent (North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Oceana). We could leave Antarctica out of the mix I think.

Anyway, the CCC event more or less takes the place now anyway.

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:02 am
by bob
The lateness isn't a surprise. But I doubt I will be able to participate. It takes time to prepare, arrange for hardware, and so forth. With no official announcement yet, it is probably too late for me...

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:04 am
by bob
It was modified a few years ago after I kept pointing out the problem. Rather than do what the charter said, they made the charter say what they do.

:)

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:19 am
by hgm
CPU manifacturers would call this an 'Errata': they change the manual to be in accordance with the faulty hardware. :lol: :lol: :lol:

But we shouldn't be to hard on ICGA; I am sure they do not discriminate the U.S. intentionally. They are dependent on sponsoring, and if there is just no interest from the U.S... To have WCCC 2007 in Amsterdam also seems an emergency act. They apparently have no sponsor, and hold it there because it is cheap.

Does one have to be an ICGA member to participate in such events? Perhaps micro-Max wants to take a shot at the World Championship. :wink:

Without Crafty participating, it should be easy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:25 am
by Harvey Williamson
Harvey Williamson wrote:The ICGA is in the final stage of negotiation for organizing the
WCCC 2007, the 12th Computer Olympiad, and an accompanying scientific workshop .
The events would take place in Amsterdam, The Netherlands at the end of June / beginning of July 2007.
Further details will be announced as soon as possible.

http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/

It is nice to get lots of notice?!
I notice the page has been updated to say:

The ICGA has concluded the negotiation for organizing the
WCCC 2007, the 12th Computer Olympiad, and an accompanying scientific workshop .
The events will take place in Amsterdam, The Netherlands,
sometime in the third and fourth week of June 2007.
An excursion will be scheduled for all interested participants.
Further details will be announced as soon as possible.

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:17 pm
by bob
You do have to be an ICGA member to participate... but it is not horribly expensive to join. It just costs a small fortune to attend an event that is a long way away and which lasts for almost 2 weeks including travel time.

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:24 pm
by Harvey Williamson
bob wrote:You do have to be an ICGA member to participate... but it is not horribly expensive to join. It just costs a small fortune to attend an event that is a long way away and which lasts for almost 2 weeks including travel time.
Which is ridiculous when you have a full time job like I do, with such short notice. Bob I hope to meet you in China - have you heard any firm dates for this yet - in my job I need to give lots of notice!

Last time I looked at the website China is confirmed but in a huge 2 month window.

Best Wishes,

Harvey

Re: WCCC 2007

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:54 pm
by Tord Romstad
Dann Corbit wrote:
Tony wrote:Reread the charter, there's no such thing in it :twisted:

Tony
It must have been 'conveniently' rewritten then.
It has become the European championship, in reality.
Not that strong North American programs stay away in total, just that most of them do.

It would make sense to me to rotate by continent (North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Oceana). We could leave Antarctica out of the mix I think.

Anyway, the CCC event more or less takes the place now anyway.
I am no supporter (nor even a member) of the ICGA, and I can easily understand the frustration of the American programmers, but the CCC can never take the place of the WCCC. An online tournament is unfathomably dull compared to any over-the-board tournament. I wouldn't cry if the ICGA died, but it would be very sad if the computer chess tournaments of the future will take place on chess servers.

Tord