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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by PauloSoare » Fri May 11, 2007 12:09 am

mclane wrote:you can agree as often as you wish with fernando. that is your right.
there were positions mentioned in several forums. where strelka behaved similar to rybka.
You don´t ansewered my question: Are you 100% rigth that Strelka
it´s a clone?
There are on CCC some member that are 100% sure that Strelka it´s a clone?

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by Christopher Conkie » Fri May 11, 2007 1:12 am

PauloSoare wrote:
mclane wrote:you can agree as often as you wish with fernando. that is your right.
there were positions mentioned in several forums. where strelka behaved similar to rybka.
You don´t ansewered my question: Are you 100% rigth that Strelka
it´s a clone?
There are on CCC some member that are 100% sure that Strelka it´s a clone?

Paulo Soares
No one can answer that question with 100% certainty as there is not enough information available yet. Declarations of such certainty would be premature either way.

There is suspicion and counter suspicion. People have opinions and always will have. When programmers voice concerns one has to listen. Everything may well have a logical explanation in the end.

There was a method that was described by Dann in the other thread by which more information may be found out. Let's wait and see what comes of that proposal.

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by PauloSoare » Fri May 11, 2007 4:07 am

Christopher Conkie wrote:
PauloSoare wrote:
mclane wrote:you can agree as often as you wish with fernando. that is your right.
there were positions mentioned in several forums. where strelka behaved similar to rybka.
You don´t ansewered my question: Are you 100% rigth that Strelka
it´s a clone?
There are on CCC some member that are 100% sure that Strelka it´s a clone?

Paulo Soares
No one can answer that question with 100% certainty as there is not enough information available yet. Declarations of such certainty would be premature either way.

There is suspicion and counter suspicion. People have opinions and always will have. When programmers voice concerns one has to listen. Everything may well have a logical explanation in the end.

There was a method that was described by Dann in the other thread by which more information may be found out. Let's wait and see what comes of that proposal.

Christopher
Thanks Christopher, was what I needed to hear, at the moment nothing is proven.
What it leaves me annoying is that some people already consider Slerka a clone.
Let´s make what Fernando write.

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by Thomas Mayer » Fri May 11, 2007 4:10 pm

Hi Fernando,
fern wrote:I believed to date, how candid am I, that every normal intelligent person already knew that you must be considered not guilty until proofs on the contrary could appear. Now I see that in this field of chess computers the very opposite is the norm: you are considered a felon unless you probe the contrary.
Is Trelka a clone or not?
If it is, sooner or later proofs of it will appear. In the meantime decency, trust and simple good will call to accept the claim of the author.
there were a lot of indications elsewhere, but I will collect some new ones.

I just go to CCC archives and compare given positions with Strelka. Of course the score and depth isn't always the same because I can't adjust Strelka's hashsize and we do not know exactly which version of Rybka might be the base of it (if it is) but look at the behaviour of the engine, it looks so extremely similar... of course I will also mention different behaviour if I found one position where that is the case:

let's start:

posted by Eduard Nemeth 12/05/05

[D]3r1rk1/2p1qppp/p1n5/1p1bP1N1/3pNQ2/1P6/PP3PPP/2RR2K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1.Df5
± (0.76) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
1.Df5
± (0.78) Tiefe: 4 00:00:00
1.Df5 Lxe4
± (1.15) Tiefe: 5 00:00:00
1.Df5 Lxe4 2.Dxe4 Dxg5
± (1.17) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00 4kN
1.Df5 Lxe4 2.Dxe4 Dxg5 3.Txc6
± (1.16) Tiefe: 7 00:00:00 8kN
1.Df5 g6 2.Dh3 h5 3.Sf6+ Kh8
± (1.08) Tiefe: 8 00:00:02 23kN
1.Df5 Lxe4 2.Dxe4 Dxg5 3.Txc6 De7 4.Txa6
± (1.17) Tiefe: 9 00:00:04 51kN
1.Df5 Lxe4 2.Dxe4 Dxg5 3.Txc6 De7 4.Txa6 f5
± (0.90) Tiefe: 10 00:00:07 96kN
1.Sxh7 Sxe5 2.Sxf8 Kxf8 3.Sg3 c5 4.Sf5 Sg6+
+- (2.24) Tiefe: 10 00:00:41 565kN
1.Sxh7 Sxe5 2.Sxf8 Kxf8 3.Sg3 c5 4.Sf5 Sg6+ 5.Dg4
+- (2.10) Tiefe: 11 00:00:52 720kN
1.Sxh7 Sxe5 2.Sxf8 Kxf8 3.Sc5 Lc6 4.Dg3 Dd6 5.Te1 Te8
+- (2.20) Tiefe: 12 00:01:17 1141kN
1.Sxh7 Sxe5 2.Sxf8 Kxf8 3.Sg3 c5 4.Sf5 g5 5.Dd2 Df6
+- (1.91) Tiefe: 13 00:02:03 1942kN
1.Txc6 Lxc6 2.Sf6+ gxf6 3.Sxh7 fxe5 4.Sf6+ Dxf6 5.Dxf6 Td6
+- (2.13) Tiefe: 13 00:02:30 2375kN

Strelka 1.0beta:
FEN: 3r1rk1/2p1qppp/p1R5/1p1bP1N1/3pNQ2/1P6/PP3PPP/3R2K1 b - - 0 1

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 3 3 -1,54 c1c6 d5c6
1 00:00 80 80 -0,45 g5h3 c6e5 d1d4
1 00:00 83 83 -0,01 g5f3
1 00:00 185 185 +0,28 f4f5 d5e4 f5e4 e7g5 c1c6
1 00:00 312 312 +0,30 h2h4 e7e5 f4e5 c6e5 c1c7
2 00:00 606 606 +0,21 h2h4 f7f5 e5f6 g7f6
2 00:00 813 813 +0,28 f4f5 d5e4 f5e4 e7g5 c1c6
3 00:00 1.954 1.954 +0,28 f4f5 d5e4 f5e4 e7g5 c1c6
4 00:00 3.913 3.913 +0,28 f4f5 d5e4 f5e4 e7g5 c1c6
5 00:00 15.975 532.500 +0,68 f4f5 g7g6 f5h3 h7h5 e4f6 g8h8
6 00:00 23.022 575.550 +0,69 f4f5 g7g6 f5h3 h7h5 e4f6 g8h8 f2f4
7 00:00 56.581 628.677 +1,11 f4f5 g7g6 e4f6 g8h8 f5f4 c6e5 g5h7 f8g8 f6g8 h8g8
8 00:00 95.551 637.006 +1,11 f4f5 g7g6 e4f6 g8h8 f5f4 c6e5 g5h7 f8g8 f6g8 h8g8
9 00:00 234.279 669.368 +1,38 f4f5 g7g6 e4f6 g8g7 f6d5 d8d5 f5f6 e7f6 e5f6 g7h6 g5f7 f8f7 c1c6 h6g5 b3b4 f7f6 c6c7
10 00:00 448.717 690.333 +1,40 f4f5 g7g6 e4f6 g8g7 f6d5 d8d5 f5f6 e7f6 e5f6 g7h6 g5f7 f8f7 c1c6 h6g5 h2h4 g5f5 b3b4
11 00:01 901.626 704.395 +1,37 f4f5 g7g6 e4f6 g8g7 f6d5 d8d5 f5f6 e7f6 e5f6 g7h6 g5f7 f8f7 c1c6 h6g5 d1c1 d5d6 c6c7 d6f6
12 00:03 2.346.014 708.765 +1,45 f4f5 d5e4 f5e4 e7g5 c1c6 f8e8 f2f4 g5e7 c6a6 e7b4 d1c1 d8d7 e4d3
12 00:13 10.013.783 742.862 +2,90 g5h7 d5e4 f4e4 f7f5 e4c6 g8h7 c6c7 f8f7 c7e7 f7e7 f2f4 g7g5 f4g5 e7e5
13 00:17 13.224.530 745.884 +2,81 g5h7 c6e5 h7f8 g8f8 e4g3 c7c5 g3f5 g7g5 f5e7 g5f4 e7f5 e5d7 b3b4 d5e4
14 00:25 19.389.525 746.325 +2,77 g5h7 c6e5 h7f8 g8f8 e4c5 d5c6 f4g3 e7d6 d1e1 d8e8 f2f4 e5g6 e1e8 f8e8 c1e1 e8f8 g3g4 f8g8 g4c8 g8h7 c5a6 g6f4 c8c7
14 00:32 24.177.633 755.551 +3,09 c1c6 d5c6 e4f6 g7f6 g5h7 f6e5 h7f6 e7f6 f4f6 d8d6 f6e5 f8e8 e5f5 c6e4 f5c5 d6g6 f2f3
15 00:40 30.569.792 764.244 +3,07 c1c6 d5c6 e4f6 g7f6 g5h7 f6e5 h7f6 e7f6 f4f6 d8d6 f6e5 f8e8 e5f5 d4d3 h2h4 c6e4 f5c5 d6c6
16 01:01 46.289.339 758.841 +3,07 c1c6 d5c6 e4f6 g7f6 g5h7 f6e5 h7f6 e7f6 f4f6 d8d6 f6e5 f8e8 e5f5 d4d3 f2f3 c6d7 f5g5 d6g6 g5d5 g6d6
16 01:24 63.413.722 754.925 +3,07 c1c6 d5c6 e4f6 g7f6 g5h7 f6e5 h7f6 e7f6 f4f6 d8d6 f6e5 f8e8 e5f5 d4d3 f2f3 c6d7 f5g5 d6g6 g5d5 g6d6


you see, that the score is bigger, the depth is given bigger and the nps is bigger (on my pc nearly exactly 10 times bigger then the one of rybka 1.0beta, but I will show here original analysis given in CCC, also that saves me some time)







Position Nr. 2

posted by Gabor Szots 12/05/05:

[D]8/5k2/4p3/4Pp1p/5P1P/3Rn2K/6p1/8 b - - bm g1=B; id "PET026: rook
vs knight";

Here Rybka plays g1Q, although it does see it is only draw.

Strelka 1.0beta

FEN: 8/5k2/4p3/4Pp1p/5P1P/3Rn2K/6p1/8 b - - 0 1

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 6 6 +12,57 g2g1q d3d7 f7g6
2 00:00 155 155 +12,57 g2g1q d3d7 f7g6
3 00:00 668 668 +16,99 g2g1q d3e3 g1e3 h3g2 e3f4
4 00:00 2.361 2.361 +18,25 g2g1q d3e3 g1e3 h3g2 e3e2 g2g1 e2g4 g1f1 g4f4 f1e2 f4h4
5 00:00 4.925 492.500 +18,46 g2g1q d3e3 g1e3 h3h2 e3f4 h2g2 f4e5
6 00:00 8.323 832.300 +12,57 g2g1q d3d7 f7e8 d7d8 e8e7 d8d7 e7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8d7 g7g6
7 00:00 10.121 1.012.100 +3,71 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8d7 g7h8 d7d8 g1g8 d8g8 h8g8 h3g3 g8f7
8 00:00 12.468 1.246.800 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
8 00:00 19.485 649.500 +0,51 e3d5 h3h2 d5f4 d3d7 f7g6 d7d8 g6h7 h2g1 h7g6 d8g8 g6f7
9 00:00 29.124 728.100 +0,24 e3d5 h3h2 d5f4 d3d7 f7g6 d7d8 g6g7 h2g1 g7f7 d8d1
10 00:00 44.562 742.700 -0,14 e3d5 h3h2 d5f4 d3a3 f7g7 a3a4 f4d3 h2g2 d3e5 g2g3
10 00:00 45.246 754.100 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
11 00:00 48.946 815.766 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
12 00:00 57.063 815.185 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
13 00:00 73.161 812.900 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
14 00:00 93.277 932.770 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
15 00:00 128.057 853.713 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
16 00:00 203.390 813.560 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
17 00:00 277.477 816.108 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
18 00:00 391.308 869.573 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
19 00:00 659.843 879.790 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
20 00:00 907.081 880.661 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
21 00:01 1.224.586 907.100 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
22 00:01 1.754.515 899.751 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
23 00:02 2.437.515 912.926 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
24 00:03 3.736.422 913.550 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
25 00:06 6.371.693 916.790 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
26 00:11 11.018.526 922.052 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
27 00:28 26.204.839 935.887 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8
28 00:35 33.025.450 943.584 0,00 g2g1q d3d7 f7f8 d7d8 f8g7 d8g8 g7g8

that should be enough for an underpromotion position, we know now that Strelka doesn't know anything about underpromotions. From the top engine, when I remember correctly, except Rybka only Aristarch doesn't know anything about underpromotion.

Position 3,

posted 12/05/05 by Paul Jacobean Sacral

[D]k7/P7/8/8/3BK3/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1.Ke5 Kb7 2.Kd6 Ka8 3.Kd5 Kb7 4.Bf2 Ka8 5.Kc4 Kb7
+- (5.98) Depth: 3 00:00:00
+- (4.09) Depth: 32 00:00:40 981kN

Strelka 1.0beta

FEN: k7/P7/8/4K3/3B4/8/8/8 b - - 1 1

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 1 1 +5,62 e4f5
1 00:00 2 2 +5,79 e4e5
1 00:00 3 3 +6,16 e4d5
2 00:00 21 21 +6,11 e4d5 a8b7
3 00:00 101 101 +5,94 e4d5 a8b7 d4e3
3 00:00 133 133 +6,05 e4e5 a8b7 e5d5
4 00:00 451 451 +6,22 e4e5 a8b7 e5d5 b7a8
5 00:00 1.311 1.311 +6,16 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5
6 00:00 2.460 2.460 +6,11 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7
7 00:00 6.606 6.606 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3
8 00:00 19.638 1.963.800 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8
9 00:00 39.219 1.307.300 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4
10 00:00 74.461 1.241.016 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4c5 b7a8 d5c4 a8b7
11 00:00 127.570 1.159.727 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4c5 b7a8 d5c4 a8b7 c5d4
12 00:00 200.821 1.338.806 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4c5 b7a8 d5c4 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8
13 00:00 272.101 1.360.505 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4c5 b7a8 d5c4 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 d3e4
14 00:00 353.457 1.359.450 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6e3 a8b7
15 00:00 406.380 1.310.903 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6e3 a8b7 e3g1
16 00:00 509.622 1.377.356 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8
17 00:00 562.220 1.338.619 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 e4d5
18 00:00 670.747 1.341.494 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5f2 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7
19 00:00 727.232 1.346.725 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5f2 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7 c5g1
20 00:00 837.250 1.308.203 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8
21 00:00 891.813 1.331.064 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3
22 00:00 1.001.187 1.317.351 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7
23 00:00 1.060.013 1.308.658 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e4d5
24 00:00 1.170.396 1.315.051 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8
25 00:00 1.228.359 1.320.816 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1e3
26 00:00 1.343.213 1.329.913 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5f2 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7
27 00:00 1.400.604 1.321.324 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5f2 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5
28 00:00 1.516.952 1.319.088 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8
29 00:00 1.574.604 1.312.170 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e3c5
30 00:01 1.691.827 1.311.493 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7
31 00:01 1.753.407 1.308.512 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6
32 00:01 1.876.015 1.311.898 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8
33 00:01 1.936.697 1.291.131 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8 e4d5
34 00:01 2.057.398 1.293.961 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7
35 00:01 2.118.790 1.291.945 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6e3
36 00:01 2.242.955 1.296.505 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8
37 00:01 2.302.382 1.286.246 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 d5e4
38 00:01 2.426.625 1.283.928 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7
39 00:01 2.488.013 1.289.125 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3g1
40 00:01 2.611.813 1.286.607 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2g1 a8b7 g1e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 g1b6 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8
41 00:01 2.679.312 1.281.967 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5f2
42 00:01 2.808.141 1.276.427 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 g1f2 a8b7
43 00:02 2.869.747 1.275.443 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1b6 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 g1c5
44 00:02 2.994.609 1.279.747 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 f4e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3b6 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8
45 00:02 3.056.822 1.273.675 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e4d5
46 00:02 3.186.068 1.274.427 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e3b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7
47 00:02 3.253.770 1.271.003 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5f2 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 f2b6 a8b7 e4d5
48 00:02 3.389.780 1.255.474 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3b6 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2b6 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8
49 00:02 3.455.017 1.251.817 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6
50 00:02 3.587.546 1.250.016 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3b6 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 b6g1 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 f4e4 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7
51 00:02 3.653.697 1.246.995 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 d3e4 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 e3b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2
52 00:02 3.788.776 1.246.307 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e3b6 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 b6g1 a8b7 g1e3 b7a8
53 00:02 3.853.354 1.239.020 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6g1 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5f2
54 00:03 3.988.844 1.242.630 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 b6g1 a8b7 g1e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7
55 00:03 4.059.835 1.237.754 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3f2 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5f2 a8b7 f2g1
56 00:03 4.195.291 1.237.548 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8
57 00:03 4.261.581 1.235.240 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6f2
58 00:03 4.397.951 1.235.379 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 f4e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7
59 00:03 4.461.255 1.232.390 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8 d6e6 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2g1
60 00:03 4.600.139 1.226.703 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3f2 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 d6d5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e3b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8
61 00:03 4.669.307 1.225.539 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e4f4 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 f4e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1f2 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 f2c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e3b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6
62 00:03 4.811.305 1.227.373 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 g1b6 b7a8 b6d4 a8b7
63 00:03 4.880.243 1.220.060 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 g1b6 b7a8 b6d4 a8b7 d7e6
64 00:03 5.019.930 1.221.394 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 e6f5 a8b7 f5e4 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 g1f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8
65 00:03 5.086.176 1.216.788 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4e3 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e3c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6f2
66 00:04 5.226.376 1.241.419 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6 a8b7 e6d5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 g1f2 b7a8 f2d4 a8b7
67 00:04 5.295.642 1.257.872 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5g1 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 f2e3 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 g1c5
68 00:04 5.436.097 1.218.855 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8
69 00:04 5.514.859 1.236.515 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 g1e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3g1 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 b6c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 b6f2 a8b7 d5d6 b7a8 d6d7 a8b7 f2c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 d7e6
70 00:04 5.669.441 1.271.175 +4,25 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 g1b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6g1 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6e3 b7a8 e3f2 a8b7
71 00:04 5.742.379 1.219.188 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1f2 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6g1 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2
71 00:04 5.861.649 1.244.511 +4,19 e4e5 a8b7 e5d6 b7a8 d6d5 a8b7 d4b6 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 c5e3 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 e3c5 a8b7 c5f2 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 f2b6 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 b6c5 b7a8 d5e4 a8b7 c5g1 b7a8 e4d5 a8b7 d5c4 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c4d3 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2 b7a8 f2e3 a8b7 e3g1 b7a8 d3e4 a8b7 e4d5 b7a8 g1f2 a8b7 d5e4 b7a8 e4f4 a8b7 f2g1 b7a8 g1c5 a8b7 c5b6 b7a8 b6g1 a8b7 g1c5 b7a8 c5b6 a8b7 b6f2

of course it isn't unusual to know nothing about bad bishop... And it is to mention that it reached here a higher depth quite fast, whatever that tells us







Position 4

firstly posted by Gabor Szotz then a longer analysis given by Arnon Yogev @ 12/05/05

>8/8/1P1k2p1/8/5P1p/4Qb2/1q4PK/8 w - - bm Qe5+; id "PET046: Q+B
>vs Q";
>
>Rybka captures at f3.
>
>
>Both positions are easily solved by most of the engines. Position No26 usually
>in 0 seconds.

New game, Blitz:5' GT
8/8/1P1k2p1/8/5P1p/4Qb2/1q4PK/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (0.78) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.14) Depth: 4 00:00:00
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.15) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.08) Depth: 6 00:00:00 2kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.21) Depth: 7 00:00:00 9kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.16) Depth: 8 00:00:00 16kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.15) Depth: 9 00:00:00 16kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.15) Depth: 10 00:00:00 17kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Qb3+ Kf6 5.Kg4
± (1.15) Depth: 11 00:00:01 17kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Kg4 Qf5+ 5.Kg3 Qd5
± (1.17) Depth: 12 00:00:09 450kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Kg4 Qf5+ 5.Kg3 g5
± (1.15) Depth: 13 00:00:28 1413kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Kxh4 Ke6 4.Kg4 Qf5+ 5.Kg3 g5
± (1.17) Depth: 14 00:01:02 3014kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Qd3+ Ke7 4.Kxh4 Qf2+ 5.Qg3 Qd4
± (1.16) Depth: 15 00:02:34 7667kN
1.Qxf3 Qxb6 2.Kh3 Qc5 3.Qd3+ Ke7 4.Kxh4 Qf2+ 5.Qg3 Qd4
± (1.17) Depth: 16 00:04:15 12637kN
1.Qe5+ Qxe5 2.fxe5+ Kc5 3.gxf3 Kxb6 4.f4 Kc5 5.Kh3 g5
+- (2.59) Depth: 16 00:05:00 14620kN
1.Qe5+ Qxe5 2.fxe5+ Kc5 3.gxf3 Kxb6 4.f4 Kc5 5.Kh3 Kd5
+- (3.06) Depth: 17 00:05:03 14766kN

(Arnon, GT 05.12.2005)

Strelka 1.0beta

FEN: 8/8/1P1k2p1/8/5P1p/4Qb2/1q4PK/8 w - - 0 1

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 2 2 -0,48 e3f3 b2b6
2 00:00 95 95 -0,42 e3f3 b2b6 f3d3 d6c5
3 00:00 337 337 -0,40 e3f3 b2b6 g2g3
4 00:00 909 909 +0,90 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c6 f3c6 d6c6 h3h4
5 00:00 2.000 2.000 +0,90 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c6 f3c6 d6c6 h3h4
6 00:00 5.578 5.578 +1,22 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6b2 f3d3 d6e7 d3e4 e7f6 h3h4
7 00:00 17.339 1.733.900 +1,30 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6d4 h3h4 d4d5 f3e2
8 00:00 51.966 866.100 +1,35 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 c5d5 f3a3 d6e6 a3e3 e6f6
9 00:00 177.482 887.410 +1,35 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c7 h3h4 c7e7 h4g3 e7e1 g3g4 e1e6 g4g5 e6f5 g5h4
10 00:00 256.279 883.720 +1,38 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e6 f3b3 e6f6 h4g3 g6g5 b3b2 f6f5
11 00:00 347.830 869.575 +1,41 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g3 e7f6 g3g4 f6e6 f3d3
12 00:00 745.505 887.505 +1,36 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g4 e7f6 h4g3 c5g1 g3h3 g1d4 f3c6 f6f7
13 00:01 1.959.434 902.964 +1,36 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g4 e7f6 g4g5 f6e7 f3d3 c5d6 d3e3 e7f7 h4g3
14 00:01 1.966.241 906.101 +1,38 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g3 e7f6 g3g4 f6f7 f3d3 f7f6 d3d8 f6f7 d8d2
15 00:14 13.152.214 924.259 +1,36 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g4 e7f6 g4g5 f6e7 f3d3 c5d6 d3e4 e7d7 h4g3 d6e6 e4d3 d7c6
16 00:23 21.735.446 945.019 +1,38 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g4 e7f6 g4g5 f6e7 f3d3 c5d6 d3e4 e7d7 h4g3 d6e6 e4d3 d7c6 d3d4
17 02:01 110.657.967 914.528 +1,36 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g4 e7f6 g4g5 f6e7 f3e4 e7f7 h4h3 c5e7 e4d4 e7e6 h3g3 e6e1 g3f3 e1f1 f3e4 f1h1 e4e3 h1g1 e3d3 g1d4 d3d4
18 04:06 219.622.966 892.776 +1,42 e3f3 b2b6 h2h3 b6c5 h3h4 d6e7 g2g4 e7f6 g4g5 f6f7 f3b3 f7f8 b3b2 c5f5 b2d4 f8f7 h4g3 f7e6 g3f2 e6e7
18 04:12 224.522.566 890.962 +2,62 e3e5 b2e5 f4e5 d6c5 g2f3 c5b6 f3f4 b6c5 h2h3 c5d5 h3h4 d5e6 h4g5 e6f7 g5h6 f7e6 h6g6 e6e7 g6f5 e7d7
19 04:33 244.074.493 894.045 +3,19 e3e5 b2e5 f4e5 d6c5 g2f3 c5b6 f3f4 b6c5 h2h3 c5d5 h3h4 d5e6 h4g5 e6f7 g5h6 f7e6 h6g6 e6e7 f4f5 e7f8 g6f6
20 05:15 281.459.144 893.521 +3,13 e3e5 b2e5 f4e5 d6c5 g2f3 c5b6 f3f4 b6c5 h2h3 c5d5 h3h4 d5e6 h4g5 e6f7 g5h6 f7e6 h6g6 e6e7 f4f5 e7f8 g6f6 f8e8

score slightly bigger, depth slightly bigger







position 5

posted by Vincent Lejeune 12/05/05

[d]8/4k3/2R5/4p3/4B1K1/5P2/1r6/8 w - - 0 73
Here Rybka played Kg3?, why not Kf5 to pick up the pawn ?
I suppose it's a bug...

Strelka 1.0beta
FEN: 8/4k3/2R5/4p3/4B1K1/5P2/1r6/8 w - - 0 73

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 6 6 +5,26 73.Tc8 Tg2+ 74.Kf5
1 00:00 22 22 +5,30 73.Tc7+ Kd6
2 00:00 203 203 +5,12 73.Tc7+ Kd6 74.Tc1 Tg2+ 75.Kf5
2 00:00 259 259 +5,26 73.Tc8 Tg2+ 74.Kf5
2 00:00 429 429 +5,33 73.Kf5 Tb5 74.Te6+ Kd7
3 00:00 588 588 +5,41 73.Kf5 Tb5 74.Tc1
4 00:00 2.028 2.028 +5,48 73.Kf5 Tb5 74.Tc1 Kd6 75.Td1+ Ke7
5 00:00 4.123 4.123 +5,48 73.Kf5 Tb5 74.Tc1 Kd6 75.Td1+ Ke7
5 00:00 7.091 7.091 +5,55 73.Ld5 Kd7 74.Kf5 Te2 75.Tc1
6 00:00 16.064 1.606.400 +5,17 73.Ld5 Td2 74.Lb3 Td6 75.Tc1 Td4+ 76.Kg5
6 00:00 19.373 1.937.300 +5,50 73.Kf5 Tb5 74.Te6+ Kf7 75.Ta6 Ke7 76.Kg5
7 00:00 49.666 827.766 +5,30 73.Kf5 Kd7 74.Tg6 Td2 75.Lc6+ Ke7 76.Lb5 Td4
8 00:00 100.866 840.550 +5,28 73.Kf5 Te2 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Lc6+ Kc7 76.Lb5 Tb2 77.Tc6+ Kd7 78.Tb6+ Txb5 79.Txb5
9 00:00 195.023 928.680 +5,27 73.Kf5 Tb8 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Tg6 Ke7 76.Kg4 Tb2 77.Tc6 Kd7
10 00:00 326.893 933.980 +5,28 73.Kf5 Tb8 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Tf6 Ke7 76.Tg6 Tf8+ 77.Kg5 Tb8 78.Ta6 Tg8+ 79.Lg6
11 00:00 434.665 905.552 +5,26 73.Kf5 Tb8 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Tf6 Ke7 76.Tg6 Tf8+ 77.Kg4 Td8 78.Ta6 Td1 79.Ta7+ Ke6
12 00:00 883.234 929.720 +5,27 73.Kf5 Tb8 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Tf6 Th8 76.Tb6 Tf8+ 77.Kg5 Tg8+ 78.Kf6 Kc7 79.Ta6 Kd7 80.Ta1
13 00:01 1.301.459 929.613 +5,24 73.Kf5 Tb8 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Tf6 Th8 76.Tg6 Tf8+ 77.Kg5 Tb8 78.Ta6 Tg8+ 79.Kf6 Tf8+ 80.Kg6 Tb8 81.Kf5
14 00:03 2.842.993 944.515 +5,25 73.Kf5 Tb8 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Tf6 Th8 76.Tg6 Tb8 77.Kg5 Tb2 78.Ta6 Tb8 79.Lf5+ Ke7 80.Tc6 e4
15 00:05 4.828.965 965.793 +5,22 73.Kf5 Tb8 74.Te6+ Kd7 75.Tf6 Tg8 76.Lc6+ Kc7 77.Ld5 Th8 78.Tc6+ Kd7 79.Le4 Tf8+ 80.Kg6 Tg8+ 81.Kf7 Tb8 82.Ta6 Tb2 83.Lf5+ Kc7
15 00:09 9.172.616 965.538 +5,23 73.Kh3 Kd7 74.Kg3 Tb4 75.Tc2 Tb8 76.Kf2 Tb6 77.Ke3 Ke6 78.Tc7 Kd6 79.Tc3 Tb2 80.Tc6+ Kd7
16 00:11 11.022.199 958.452 +5,22 73.Kh3 Td2 74.Th6 Tb2 75.Ta6 Td2 76.Kg3 Td6 77.Ta1 Td8 78.Kf2 Tc8 79.Ke2 Td8 80.Ta6 Td6 81.Ta7+ Ke6
17 00:15 15.029.891 969.670 +5,22 73.Kh3 Td2 74.Th6 Tb2 75.Ta6 Td2 76.Kg3 Td6 77.Ta1 Td2 78.Tc1 Kd6 79.Tc8 Ke7 80.Tc6 Td6 81.Tc1
18 00:22 21.449.548 974.979 +5,22 73.Kh3 Td2 74.Th6 Tb2 75.Ta6 Te2 76.Kg4 Tg2+ 77.Kf5 Tg8 78.Te6+ Kd7 79.Lc6+ Kc7 80.Ke4 Tb8 81.Ld5 Tb6 82.Te8 Tb4+ 83.Kf5 Kd6
19 00:32 31.503.149 984.473 +5,22 73.Kh3 Td2 74.Th6 Tb2 75.Ta6 Te2 76.Kg4 Tg2+ 77.Kf5 Tg8 78.Te6+ Kd7 79.Tb6 Tf8+ 80.Kg5 Tg8+ 81.Kf6 Tf8+ 82.Kg7 Td8 83.Kf7 Th8 84.Ta6 Tb8 85.Lf5+ Kc7
20 00:48 47.104.224 981.338 +5,22 73.Kh3 Td2 74.Th6 Tb2 75.Ta6 Te2 76.Kg4 Tg2+ 77.Kf5 Tg8 78.Te6+ Kd7 79.Tc6 Tf8+ 80.Kg6 Tg8+ 81.Kf7 Td8 82.Tc1 Kd6 83.Tc2 Tb8 84.Tc6+ Kd7 85.Th6 Tb2 86.Lf5+ Kc7

Kh3 is exactly as strange, but at least it is different...






Position 6

posted by Karlo Bala 12/05/05

[D]8/3N4/8/8/1pp5/brpp4/qpprp3/1nkbK3 w - - 3 13

Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:
3 00:00 0 0 0,00 Nd7c5
4 00:00 0 0 0,00 Nd7c5
5 00:00 0 0 0,00 Nd7c5
6 00:00 0 0 0,00 Nd7c5
7 00:00 0 0 0,00 Nd7c5
8 00:00 58 59.392 0,00 Nd7c5
9 00:00 107 109.568 0,00 Nd7c5
10 00:00 214 219.136 0,00 Nd7c5
11 00:00 328 335.872 0,00 Nd7c5
12 00:00 484 495.616 0,00 Nd7c5
13 00:00 754 772.096 0,00 Nd7c5
14 00:00 1.138 1.165.312 0,00 Nd7c5
15 00:00 1.729 104.146 0,00 Nd7c5
16 00:00 2.553 153.780 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
17 00:00 3.628 218.533 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
18 00:00 4.971 299.429 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
19 00:00 6.735 215.520 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
20 00:00 9.060 289.920 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
21 00:00 12.004 256.085 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
22 00:00 15.325 326.933 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
23 00:00 19.051 304.816 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
24 00:00 23.766 380.256 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
25 00:00 30.166 391.012 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
26 00:00 38.137 351.822 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
27 00:00 48.079 260.491 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
28 00:00 59.799 300.167 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
29 00:00 73.679 229.323 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
30 00:00 91.322 213.015 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
31 00:00 113.736 218.920 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
32 00:00 141.335 249.960 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
33 00:00 174.592 272.119 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
34 00:01 213.690 303.914 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
35 00:01 259.954 327.018 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
36 00:01 317.370 352.098 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
37 00:01 387.677 384.671 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
38 00:01 470.898 411.082 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
39 00:01 568.022 432.456 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
40 00:01 681.714 455.662 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
41 00:02 817.594 482.267 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
42 00:02 993.871 504.573 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
43 00:02 1.195.713 525.723 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
44 00:02 1.428.780 547.351 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
45 00:03 1.706.368 564.562 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
46 00:03 2.035.933 579.915 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
47 00:04 2.433.438 594.853 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
48 00:05 2.911.190 605.536 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
49 00:06 3.472.940 615.062 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
50 00:07 4.162.795 625.579 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
51 00:08 4.960.768 97.522 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
52 00:10 5.912.534 656.948 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
53 00:12 7.050.291 640.935 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
54 00:14 8.406.514 600.465 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
55 00:17 10.038.265 627.391 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
56 00:22 12.237.221 556.237 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
57 00:28 14.650.461 542.609 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
58 00:33 17.576.485 549.265 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
59 00:39 20.906.233 550.164 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
60 00:48 25.071.646 533.439 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
61 01:03 32.893.512 530.540 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
62 01:30 47.221.106 536.603 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
63 01:48 56.730.098 540.286 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
64 01:59 62.369.615 537.669 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1
65 02:18 73.324.246 543.142 0,00 Nd7c5 Qa2a1

Strelka 1.0beta

FEN: 8/3N4/8/8/1pp5/brpp4/qpprp3/1nkbK3 w - - 0 13

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 1 1 -51,81 d7f8
1 00:00 3 3 -51,27 d7f6
1 00:00 5 5 -51,18 d7e5
1 00:00 7 7 -50,43 e1f2
2 00:00 127 12.700 -62,44 e1f2 e2e1q f2e1 d2e2 e1f1 b1d2 f1g1 b2b1q
2 00:00 132 13.200 -49,76 d7e5 a2a1 e5c4
3 00:00 157 15.700 -49,76 d7e5 a2a1 e5c4
4 00:00 203 20.300 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
5 00:00 241 24.100 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
6 00:00 279 27.900 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
7 00:00 331 33.100 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
8 00:00 388 38.800 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
9 00:00 445 44.500 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
10 00:00 715 71.500 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
11 00:00 977 97.700 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
12 00:00 1.328 132.800 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
13 00:00 1.752 175.200 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
14 00:00 2.210 221.000 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
15 00:00 3.118 311.800 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
16 00:00 4.367 436.700 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
17 00:00 5.980 598.000 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
18 00:00 7.983 266.100 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
19 00:00 10.207 340.233 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
20 00:00 13.346 444.866 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
21 00:00 17.700 590.000 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
22 00:00 23.229 580.725 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
23 00:00 30.033 750.825 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
24 00:00 38.102 635.033 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
25 00:00 48.062 801.033 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
26 00:00 60.864 676.266 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
27 00:00 77.419 703.809 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
28 00:00 97.542 812.850 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
29 00:00 121.412 714.188 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
30 00:00 150.700 837.222 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
31 00:00 187.074 813.365 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
32 00:00 231.101 825.360 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
33 00:00 284.830 890.093 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
34 00:00 348.461 893.489 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
35 00:00 424.423 922.658 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
36 00:00 515.959 921.355 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
37 00:00 626.435 934.977 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
38 00:00 757.617 959.008 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
39 00:00 913.657 961.744 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
40 00:00 1.098.519 980.820 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
41 00:01 1.320.979 971.308 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
42 00:01 1.587.002 967.684 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
43 00:01 1.905.709 987.413 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
44 00:02 2.280.396 987.184 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
45 00:02 2.724.132 990.593 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
46 00:03 3.256.435 992.815 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
47 00:03 3.890.593 1.000.152 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
48 00:04 4.645.022 1.036.835 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
49 00:05 5.564.252 1.015.374 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
50 00:06 6.638.526 1.024.463 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
51 00:07 7.898.932 1.021.854 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
52 00:09 9.400.059 1.018.424 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
53 00:11 11.310.356 1.007.155 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
54 00:13 13.941.438 1.015.399 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
55 00:17 17.315.798 1.004.979 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
56 00:20 20.707.670 998.922 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
57 00:24 24.772.993 1.032.208 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
58 00:29 29.691.183 1.023.833 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
59 00:35 35.662.537 1.018.929 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
60 00:43 43.290.780 1.006.762 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
61 00:52 52.986.379 1.018.968 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
62 01:04 65.391.422 1.021.740 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2

So we know now that they both have no null move verification







Position 6 posted in the same thread by Uri Blass 12/05/05

A bad guess because Rybka solve the following problem that is about the same
idea.

New game,
[D]8/3N4/8/8/1pp5/brpp3p/qpprp2P/1nkbK3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1.Ne5
= (0.00) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1.Ne5
= (0.00) Depth: 4 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7
= (0.00) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 6 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 7 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 8 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 9 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 10 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 11 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 12 00:00:00
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 13 00:00:00 1kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 14 00:00:00 2kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 15 00:00:00 3kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 16 00:00:00 4kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 17 00:00:00 5kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 18 00:00:00 7kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 19 00:00:00 9kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 20 00:00:00 12kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 21 00:00:00 16kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 22 00:00:00 21kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 23 00:00:01 26kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 24 00:00:01 34kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 25 00:00:01 43kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 26 00:00:02 56kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 27 00:00:02 70kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 28 00:00:02 89kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 29 00:00:02 112kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 30 00:00:02 140kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 31 00:00:02 176kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 32 00:00:02 220kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 33 00:00:02 274kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 34 00:00:02 341kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 35 00:00:02 423kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 36 00:00:02 525kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 37 00:00:02 649kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 38 00:00:02 803kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 39 00:00:02 993kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 40 00:00:02 1229kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nd7 Qa2
= (0.00) Depth: 41 00:00:02 1518kN
1.Ne5 Qa1 2.Nxc4
+- (320.00) Depth: 42 00:00:02 1664kN


Strelka 1.0beta

FEN: 8/8/8/4N3/1pp5/brpp3p/qpprp2P/1nkbK3 b - - 1 1

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 1 1 -51,81 d7f8
1 00:00 3 3 -51,27 d7f6
1 00:00 5 5 -51,18 d7e5
1 00:00 7 7 -51,17 e1f2
2 00:00 138 138 -64,83 e1f2 e2e1q f2e1 d2e2 e1f1 b1d2 f1g1 d2f3 g1f1 f3h2 f1g1 e2g2 g1h1 b2b1q
2 00:00 143 143 -49,76 d7e5 a2a1 e5c4
3 00:00 168 168 -49,76 d7e5 a2a1 e5c4
4 00:00 214 214 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
5 00:00 252 252 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
6 00:00 290 290 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
7 00:00 342 342 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
8 00:00 399 399 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
9 00:00 456 456 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
10 00:00 716 716 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
11 00:00 966 966 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
12 00:00 1.328 1.328 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
13 00:00 1.748 1.748 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
14 00:00 2.194 2.194 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
15 00:00 3.066 3.066 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
16 00:00 4.221 4.221 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
17 00:00 5.632 563.200 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
18 00:00 7.632 763.200 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
19 00:00 9.614 961.400 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
20 00:00 12.379 1.237.900 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
21 00:00 16.286 1.628.600 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
22 00:00 21.382 712.733 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
23 00:00 27.473 915.766 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
24 00:00 35.221 880.525 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
25 00:00 44.867 1.121.675 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
26 00:00 57.152 952.533 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
27 00:00 73.116 812.400 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
28 00:00 92.983 845.300 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
29 00:00 117.070 836.214 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
30 00:00 147.879 869.876 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
31 00:00 185.903 929.515 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
32 00:00 232.919 895.842 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
33 00:00 291.811 911.909 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
34 00:00 363.548 908.870 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
35 00:00 453.476 906.952 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
36 00:00 566.556 928.780 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
37 00:00 705.127 940.169 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
38 00:00 877.450 953.750 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
39 00:00 1.089.859 947.703 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
40 00:01 1.353.041 952.845 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
41 00:01 1.681.952 955.654 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
42 00:01 2.094.269 960.673 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
43 00:02 2.609.195 966.368 0,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5d7 a1a2
44 00:02 2.837.088 968.289 +M3 d7e5 a2a1 e5c4 a1a2 c4a5 a2a1 a5b3
44 00:02 2.837.088 968.289 +319,00 d7e5 a2a1 e5c4 a1a2 c4a5 a2a1 a5b3

it's funny that Arena 1.1 corrects here the given score by Strelka, in fact in the debugwindow it gave 29993 for the 2nd last line and 32000 for the last line.
And I know only ONE other engine that gives +32000 when found a mate without taking care of distance to mate. Guess which one...







Position 7

posted by Eduard Nemeth 12/05/05

[D]1qk4K/Qp6/pBp5/P1P5/5pp1/8/5PP1/8 b - - 0 1

1...Qxa7!! and black wins. :)

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1...Dxa7
+- (1.86) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
1...Dxa7
+- (1.93) Tiefe: 4 00:00:00
1...Dxa7 2.Lxa7
+- (1.97) Tiefe: 5 00:00:00
1...Dxa7 2.Lxa7 Kd7
+- (2.06) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00 2kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00 4kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 7 00:00:00 5kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 8 00:00:00 7kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 9 00:00:01 11kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 10 00:00:01 19kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 11 00:00:02 33kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 12 00:00:03 57kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 13 00:00:05 97kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 14 00:00:07 167kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 15 00:00:11 271kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 16 00:00:17 438kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 17 00:00:29 734kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 18 00:00:56 1365kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 19 00:01:44 2432kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 20 00:03:16 4376kN
1...De5+ 2.Kh7 Dh5+ 3.Kg7 Dg5+ 4.Kf7+ Df5+ 5.Ke7# De5+ 6.Kf8+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 21 00:06:52 8590kN

Strelka 1.0beta

FEN: 1qk4K/Qp6/pBp5/P1P5/5pp1/8/5PP1/8 b - - 0 1

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 2 2 -1,77 b8a7 b6a7
1 00:00 55 55 -1,68 b8e5 h8h7 e5e4 h7g7 e4g2
2 00:00 417 417 -1,65 b8e5 h8h7 e5e4 h7g7 e4d4 g7g6 d4f2
3 00:00 862 862 -1,65 b8e5 h8h7 e5e4 h7g7 e4d4 g7g6 d4f2
3 00:00 920 920 -1,45 b8a7 b6a7 c8d7
4 00:00 1.048 1.048 -1,83 b8a7 b6a7 f4f3 g2f3 g4f3
5 00:00 1.962 1.962 -1,85 b8a7 b6a7 c8d7 h8g7 d7e6
6 00:00 4.903 4.903 -1,92 b8a7 b6a7 c8d7 h8g7 d7e6 g7g6
6 00:00 11.455 1.145.500 -1,74 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7f8 g5f5 f8e7 f5e4 e7f6 e4g2
7 00:00 22.934 764.466 -1,74 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7f7 g5f5 f7e7 f5g5 e7e6 g5d5 e6f6 d5g2
8 00:00 40.223 1.005.575 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7f7 g5f5 f7e7 f5e5 e7f7 e5f5
9 00:00 44.422 1.110.550 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
10 00:00 67.529 964.700 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
11 00:00 103.784 864.866 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
12 00:00 172.933 864.665 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
13 00:00 318.477 796.192 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
14 00:00 551.655 848.700 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
15 00:01 1.097.041 850.419 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
16 00:01 1.721.696 860.848 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
17 00:03 2.902.260 866.346 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
18 00:06 5.339.247 863.955 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
19 00:10 9.490.601 868.307 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
20 00:20 18.101.776 875.327 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5
21 00:48 41.611.155 866.899 0,00 b8e5 h8g8 e5d5 g8h7 d5h5 h7g7 h5g5 g7h7 g5h5








Position 8

hole thread posted at 12/06/05, initial position by Jouni Uski

On December 06, 2005 at 09:11:14, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>>In good old mate in 30
>>
>>[D]5n2/B3K3/2p2Np1/4k3/7P/3bN1P1/2Prn1P1/1q6 w - -
>>
>>position nothing happens!?
>>
>>Jouni
>
>Try the move now button, Rybka has it instantly:
>
>1. Neg4+ {0.01/0 3} Kf5 {0.01/0 1} 2. Nh6+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 3. Nf7+ {
>0.01/0 0} Kf5 {0.01/0 0} 4. Nd6+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 5. Ng4+ {0.01/0 0}
>Kd5 {0.01/0 0} 6. Ne3+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 7. Nf7+ {0.01/0 0} Ke4 {
>0.01/0 0} 8. Ng5+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 9. Nf3+ {0.01/0 0} Ke4 {0.01/0 0}
>10. Nxd2+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 11. Nf3+ {0.01/0 0} Ke4 {0.01/0 0} 12. Ng5+
>{0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 13. Nf7+ {0.01/0 0} Ke4 {0.01/0 0} 14. Nd6+ {0.01/0 0
>} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 15. Ng4+ {0.01/0 0} Kd5 {0.01/0 0} 16. Nf6+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {
>0.01/0 0} 17. Nf7+ {0.01/0 0} Kf5 {0.01/0 0} 18. Nh6+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0}
>19. Nhg4+ {0.01/0 0} Kf5 {0.01/0 0} 20. Ne3+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 21.
>Nfg4+ {0.01/0 0} Ke4 {0.01/0 0} 22. Nf2+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 23. Nxd3+ {
>0.01/0 0} Ke4 {0.01/0 0} 24. Nf2+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 25. Nfg4+ {0.01/0 0
>} Ke4 {0.01/0 0} 26. Nf6+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 27. Nc4+ {0.01/0 1} Kf5 {
>0.01/0 1} 28. Nd6+ {0.01/0 0} Ke5 {0.01/0 0} 29. Ng4+ {0.01/0 0} Kd5 {0.01/0 0}
>30. c4# {0.01/0 0} 1-0

Yes

The position is too easy for Rybka
It even does not need depth 1 to find the correct move and it does not show
analysis at depth 0.

Uri

in fact Rybka finds that extremely fast

Strelka 1.0beta

FEN: 5n2/B3K3/2p2Np1/4k3/6NP/3b2P1/2Prn1P1/1q6 b - - 1 1

Strelka v.1.0.beta:
1 00:00 18 18 -15,50 c2d3 b1d3
1 00:00 680 680 0,00 f6g4 e5e4 g4f2 e4e5 f2g4
2 00:00 1.383 1.383 0,00 f6g4 e5e4 g4f2 e4e5 f2g4
3 00:00 3.274 327.400 0,00 f6g4 e5e4 g4f2 e4e5 f2g4
3 00:00 21.282 709.400 +6,13 e3g4 e5f5 g4h6 f5e5 h6f7 e5f5 f7d6 f5e5 f6g4 e5d5 c2c4 d3c4 g4e3 d5e5 e3c4 e5d5 c4e3 d5e5 d6c4 e5e4 c4d2 e4d3 d2b1 e2d4
4 00:00 109.322 780.871 +M31 e3g4 e5f5 g4h6 f5e5 h6f7 e5f5 f7d6 f5e5 f6g4 e5d5 g4e3 d5e5 d6f7 e5e4 f7g5 e4e5 g5f3 e5e4 f3d2 e4e5 d2f3 e5e4 f3g5 e4e5 g5f7 e5e4 f7d6 e4e5 e3g4 e5d5 g4f6 d5e5 d6f7 e5f5 f7h6 f5e5 h6g4 e5f5 g4e3 f5e5 f6g4 e5e4 g4f2 e4e5 f2d3 e5e4 d3f2 e4e5 f2g4 e5e4 g4f6 e4e5 e3g4 e5f5 g4h6 f5e5 h6f7 e5f5 f7d6 f5e5 f6g4 e5d5 c2c4
4 00:00 109.322 780.871 +319,00 e3g4 e5f5 g4h6 f5e5 h6f7 e5f5 f7d6 f5e5 f6g4 e5d5 g4e3 d5e5 d6f7 e5e4 f7g5 e4e5 g5f3 e5e4 f3d2 e4e5 d2f3 e5e4 f3g5 e4e5 g5f7 e5e4 f7d6 e4e5 e3g4 e5d5 g4f6 d5e5 d6f7 e5f5 f7h6 f5e5 h6g4 e5f5 g4e3 f5e5 f6g4 e5e4 g4f2 e4e5 f2d3 e5e4 d3f2 e4e5 f2g4 e5e4 g4f6 e4e5 e3g4 e5f5 g4h6 f5e5 h6f7 e5f5 f7d6 f5e5 f6g4 e5d5 c2c4

again Arena corrects the score given in the debugwindow, +319,00 should be +320,00






I can go on and on and on and on with that type of stuff, of course you will find another engine that shows same behaviour in SOME of those positions, but for sure not in them all.
So now tell me how you can't get suspicious ? I don't know of any engine that shows so many similarities without having something shared.
As I said several times, the author must explain a lot, these similarities do not look very random to me...

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by Jim Walker » Fri May 11, 2007 5:07 pm

If it walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck and looks like a Duck, it's probably a Duck. (Deductive logic)
I see a cow and it has 4 legs. Therefore all 4 legged animals must be cows. (Inductive logic)
What is going on here?

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by Christopher Conkie » Fri May 11, 2007 5:16 pm

Jim Walker wrote:If it walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck and looks like a Duck, it's probably a Duck. (Deductive logic)
I see a cow and it has 4 legs. Therefore all 4 legged animals must be cows. (Inductive logic)
What is going on here?
Maybe it's a flying cow that quacks?

Conductive logic......

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by Thomas Mayer » Fri May 11, 2007 5:51 pm

Jim Walker wrote:If it walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck and looks like a Duck, it's probably a Duck. (Deductive logic)
I see a cow and it has 4 legs. Therefore all 4 legged animals must be cows. (Inductive logic)
What is going on here?
Well James,

so tell me another way how YOU want to discover clones when YOU don't have the source. The only possibility is to look for anomalies which both engines share. As soon as the number of such anomalies reaches a level which doesn't look normal you get suspicious. And so far I've read nothing that could explain all that.

But when Dann Corbit says that according his opinion this can't be a Rybka and when Brian Hoffmann makes a compile of Strelka and states as well that it isn't Rybka, well then I am convinced that it is no clone. But then I really don't know what is going on, must be the first time that two clever guys producing nearly the same thing independantly...

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by Jim Walker » Fri May 11, 2007 8:57 pm

Hello Thomas,
I belive history is full of instances where 2 people working on the same project have come up with almost identical solutions. I think there was an instance where two people shared the Nobel prize for such an occurance. (not sure ... it's my 66 year old memory again)
In any case I'm all for giving the benefit of doubt untill proven wrong. The operative word is "proven".
Jim

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by eriq » Sat May 12, 2007 12:53 am

You can not reason with an unreasonable mind.

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Re: Strelka: Justice in Reverse

Post by fern » Sat May 12, 2007 11:26 pm

Which is the problem?
If I put you a mate in two problem, surely you will solve it, as millions of chess players has done.
Then?
Why you think that every chess player, if artificial, must behave differently OR they are the very same?
That logic escapes me.

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