The Strelka affair to date
Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:38 am
After the resolution of experts that took a look inside the bowels of Trelka, it appears that it is not a clone of Rybka.
Still, some people is dubious.
It seems that a law has been proclamed that any time two players play the same in the same position, that does not means both reached the positional truth of it, but someone is cloning the other.
It is curious to think like that, as much chess, differently of sheer artistic endeavour, has a layer of objetive truth. In many positions, like in mate-in-two problems solved equally by different players, human or artificial, it is only natural to play the same move.
In fact, it is NECCESARY that players of any kind should play the same if they are good enough to get the esentials of a position. Even different players of different levels can play the same.
So, if we see two engines playing the samemove in some positions, is it an enough good evidence that something wrong is going on?
Besides that, there is another consideration: commons sense indicates that you must take what is said to you in its value UNLESS there is HARD evidence not to believe it.
We can be deceived, but that matter less than to become a suspicious kind of guys. Any community is grounded in mutual trust and this one is not an exception.
Last: as much sooner or later truth comes to the fore, why to poison the ambience prematurely?
Not to believe what it is said to us was already made, at first, with Vas; now it was commited with this new russian guy.
How many extra times it will be done?
My best
Fernando
Still, some people is dubious.
It seems that a law has been proclamed that any time two players play the same in the same position, that does not means both reached the positional truth of it, but someone is cloning the other.
It is curious to think like that, as much chess, differently of sheer artistic endeavour, has a layer of objetive truth. In many positions, like in mate-in-two problems solved equally by different players, human or artificial, it is only natural to play the same move.
In fact, it is NECCESARY that players of any kind should play the same if they are good enough to get the esentials of a position. Even different players of different levels can play the same.
So, if we see two engines playing the samemove in some positions, is it an enough good evidence that something wrong is going on?
Besides that, there is another consideration: commons sense indicates that you must take what is said to you in its value UNLESS there is HARD evidence not to believe it.
We can be deceived, but that matter less than to become a suspicious kind of guys. Any community is grounded in mutual trust and this one is not an exception.
Last: as much sooner or later truth comes to the fore, why to poison the ambience prematurely?
Not to believe what it is said to us was already made, at first, with Vas; now it was commited with this new russian guy.
How many extra times it will be done?
My best
Fernando