what is illegal??

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Terry McCracken

Re: what is illegal??

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Tony Thomas wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:
chesstango wrote:a porn site or those people that view the site???
Both
a chess site that offers programs free, or the people that pick up those progs for personal use???
Both
a person who offers a stolen Rolex in ebay (for example) or the person that buys it in good faith???
The thief.

Do I win any prize for getting them right?
Porn Sites are Legal. Viewing Porn is Legal. Only Child Porn is Illegal and that applies to the site and the viewer.
How can me or Terry live without porn. Porn makes our sad, loney lives merrier. :wink: :lol: As far as I know, only Child porn is illegal. Porn is probably illegal in China or in a conservative muslim country, then again alcohol is illegal in certain countries.
Speak for yourself :wink:
Terry McCracken

Re: what is illegal??

Post by Terry McCracken »

Dirt wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:
chesstango wrote:a porn site or those people that view the site???
Both
a chess site that offers programs free, or the people that pick up those progs for personal use???
Both
a person who offers a stolen Rolex in ebay (for example) or the person that buys it in good faith???
The thief.

Do I win any prize for getting them right?
Porn Sites are Legal. Viewing Porn is Legal. Only Child Porn is Illegal and that applies to the site and the viewer.
He's wrong about the chess programs as well. For instance, WBEC Ridderkerk offers chess programs for free, and neither it nor its users are doing anything illegal or wrong.

Silly questions, silly answers.
I agree :lol:
Tony Thomas

Re: what is illegal??

Post by Tony Thomas »

Terry McCracken wrote:
Speak for yourself :wink:
<floR mode>
When I speak, I speak for both of us. After all, you are just an evil invention of my own mind. <floR mode>
tmokonen
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Re: what is illegal??

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Dirt wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:
chesstango wrote:a porn site or those people that view the site???
Both
a chess site that offers programs free, or the people that pick up those progs for personal use???
Both
a person who offers a stolen Rolex in ebay (for example) or the person that buys it in good faith???
The thief.

Do I win any prize for getting them right?
Porn Sites are Legal. Viewing Porn is Legal. Only Child Porn is Illegal and that applies to the site and the viewer.
He's wrong about the chess programs as well. For instance, WBEC Ridderkerk offers chess programs for free, and neither it nor its users are doing anything illegal or wrong.

Silly questions, silly answers.
I agree :lol:
Ok, then what about a page like Ed Schröder's free chess downloads page? (http://www.top-5000.nl/cp.htm) This page is largely an abandonware site, with a bunch of old commercial programs available for download.

Now, he states that he obtained permission for many of these programs. But, has he obtained permission, or have the copyrights been waived, for ALL of them? I hope so, because I respect Ed and what he has done for the computer chess community, and wouldn't want to see him get into hot water over a technicality.

Also, I don't think the question about the sites offering programs for free was all that silly. The poster didn't say *free* programs offered for free.

Tony
Tony Thomas

Re: what is illegal??

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tmokonen wrote: Also, I don't think the question about the sites offering programs for free was all that silly. The poster didn't say *free* programs offered for free.

Tony
You are from Canada. :wink:
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Re: what is illegal??

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Hi Bernardo !

All these problems are in fact just one:

-the relations between cause and effect.

Regards,
Sylwy
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Re: what is illegal??

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Tony Thomas wrote:
tmokonen wrote: Also, I don't think the question about the sites offering programs for free was all that silly. The poster didn't say *free* programs offered for free.

Tony
You are from Canada. :wink:
Yes, that would explain the obtuse remarks I made. And I'm not just from Canada, but Surrey. This place has a, er, reputation of sorts. Google "Surrey Girl" to see what I mean.

Tony
Tony Thomas

Re: what is illegal??

Post by Tony Thomas »

tmokonen wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:
tmokonen wrote: Also, I don't think the question about the sites offering programs for free was all that silly. The poster didn't say *free* programs offered for free.

Tony
You are from Canada. :wink:
Yes, that would explain the obtuse remarks I made. And I'm not just from Canada, but Surrey. This place has a, er, reputation of sorts. Google "Surrey Girl" to see what I mean.

Tony
You ruined my joke. I expected a question as a reply, something like what? WTF? or What the heck are you talking about? There was a thread here few weeks ago that talked about an unusual site that was made by a canadian and an american. So my answer if you had responded correctly/or my way would have been, you are Canadian, and I am an American, let's start a clone site. :wink:
Terry McCracken

Re: what is illegal??

Post by Terry McCracken »

tmokonen wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Dirt wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:
chesstango wrote:a porn site or those people that view the site???
Both
a chess site that offers programs free, or the people that pick up those progs for personal use???
Both
a person who offers a stolen Rolex in ebay (for example) or the person that buys it in good faith???
The thief.


Do I win any prize for getting them right?
Porn Sites are Legal. Viewing Porn is Legal. Only Child Porn is Illegal and that applies to the site and the viewer.
He's wrong about the chess programs as well. For instance, WBEC Ridderkerk offers chess programs for free, and neither it nor its users are doing anything illegal or wrong.

Silly questions, silly answers.
I agree :lol:
Ok, then what about a page like Ed Schröder's free chess downloads page? (http://www.top-5000.nl/cp.htm) This page is largely an abandonware site, with a bunch of old commercial programs available for download.

Now, he states that he obtained permission for many of these programs. But, has he obtained permission, or have the copyrights been waived, for ALL of them? I hope so, because I respect Ed and what he has done for the computer chess community, and wouldn't want to see him get into hot water over a technicality.

Also, I don't think the question about the sites offering programs for free was all that silly. The poster didn't say *free* programs offered for free.

Tony
It's silly in my opinion as it is fairly easy to distinguish abandon ware.

Terry
Philippe

Re: what is illegal??

Post by Philippe »

If someone cand find a chess program for free, he will download it, no matter it is legal or not. Unlike he is used to wasting his money.