will Shredder be able to strike back in amsterdam ?

[mclane]

or is there no chance ?
your opinion !

long time ago that i bought shredder.
i would like to do so - if there would be some progress.

[Harvey Williamson]

or is there no chance ?
your opinion !

long time ago that i bought shredder.
i would like to do so - if there would be some progress.

Hi,

I hear a rumour that Zap will not play. So that could mean only 10 will play. Rybka will take some stopping but who would bet against an 11x world champion!?

Maybe Micro-Max is back in the top 10?

Harvey

[mclane]

I hear a rumour that Zap will not play

that would be a pity. i like zap-chess.

[Nid Hogge]

or is there no chance ?
your opinion !

long time ago that i bought shredder.
i would like to do so - if there would be some progress.

I Really hope so. Shredded used to be my favorite engine but unfortunatley the new versions couldn't keep up for a long time strength-wise.

It's still has a great chance.

I vote for ressurection

[tiger]

or is there no chance ?
your opinion !

long time ago that i bought shredder.
i would like to do so - if there would be some progress.

I think Shredder's great strength during its bright years was the successful use of reductions, the thing some wrongly call "LMR".

But it was its only strength, so now that everybody else is using them...


// Christophe

[Mike S.]

Difficult... but good luck!

I wonder what can be expected from GridChess which seems to be a kind of multi cpu Toga running on distributed clients. Whatever that means. The description does not mention the number of processors or cores utilized.

http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/p ... php?id=520

But it sounds impressive and probably must be considered a co-favourite.

[George Tsavdaris]

Why no Hiarcs there?

[Harvey Williamson]

Why no Hiarcs there?

The short notice of the event was the main factor. Mark and I are unable to attend. If we use an operator then the entry fee is doubled to 1000 Euros.
The total cost to play would be about 3000 Euros. All the publicity this year is going to the other event that ICGA is involved in the DF v DJ match.

[Tony Thomas]

Yes, I believe in Shredderman

[IWB]

Hello

Difficult... but good luck!

I wonder what can be expected from GridChess which seems to be a kind of multi cpu Toga running on distributed clients.

Gridchess allready played in Paderborn end of last year.

This was the game vs Shredder, which I would have voted for as the game of the tourney:

[Event "IPCCC 2006"]
[Site "Paderborn"]
[Date "2006.12.29"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Deep Shredder"]
[Black "Gridchess"]
[ECO ""]
[Result "1-0"]

1.e4 {book 0s} c5 {50s} 2.Nf3 {book 0s} d6 {10s} 3.d4 {book 0s}
cxd4 {9s} 4.Nxd4 {book 0s} Nf6 {12s} 5.Nc3 {book 0s} Nc6 {11s (a6)}
6.Bg5 {book 0s} e6 {21s} 7.Qd2 {book 0s} a6 {13s} 8.O-O-O {book 0s}
h6 {11s (Bd7)} 9.Nxc6 {book 0s} bxc6 {3:54m} 10.Bf4 {book 0s}
d5 {2:22m} 11.Qe3 {book 0s} Bb4 {1:07m} 12.a3 {+0.34/19 3:53m}
Ba5 {2:27m} 13.Be2 {+0.24/19 0s} O-O {3:27m} 14.e5 {+0.18/19 26s}
Bxc3 {5:23m (Nd7)} 15.Qxc3 {+0.61/16 8s} Ne4 {16s} 16.Qe3 {+0.96/20 1:56m}
Qh4 {57s} 17.g3 {+0.99/20 1:13m} Qe7 {1:44m} 18.f3 {+0.77/20 3:23m}
Nc5 {1:36m} 19.Rd4 {+0.46/20 2:52m} a5 {3:13m} 20.Rhd1 {+1.39/19 1:11m}
g5 {3:46m (Kh7)} 21.Bxg5 {+1.60/20 2:36m} hxg5 {15s} 22.Rg4 {+1.58/21 2:50m}
Rd8 {47s} 23.Rxg5+ {+1.82/20 1:41m} Kf8 {15s} 24.h4 {+1.57/21 6:50m}
Ke8 {1:29m (d4)} 25.Qf4 {+2.29/19 1:54m} Kd7 {5:31m} 26.Rg7 {+1.73/22 0s}
Rf8 {3:21m} 27.h5 {+1.73/22 0s} Kc7 {1:31m} 28.Re1 {+1.65/19 29s}
Nd7 {2:40m (Bd7)} 29.h6 {+0.92/19 4:36m} Ba6 {16s} 30.Bxa6 {+0.92/19 2:51m}
Rxa6 {1:18m} 31.h7 {+0.81/18 30s} Raa8 {13s} 32.Kb1 {+0.81/18 1:27m}
c5 {23s} 33.c4 {+1.54/19 2:33m} d4 {2:23m} 34.Rh1 {+1.35/20 0s}
Rad8 {1:53m} 35.g4 {+1.57/20 0s} Qe8 {2:01m} 36.g5 {+1.34/19 0s}
a4 {4:41m (Rb8)} 37.Rh6 {+2.81/18 1:23m} d3 {4:35m (Kb6)} 38.g6 {+4.22/18 3:55m}
Qe7 {13s (fxg6)} 39.gxf7 {+4.32/19 2:33m} Rh8 {3:07m (Nb6)} 40.Qd2 {+5.34/18 2:11m}
Kb8 {1:51m} 41.Qxd3 {+6.09/18 0s} Nf8 {3:41m} 42.Qc2 {+8.67/19 0s}
Qc7 {13s} 43.f4 {+9.93/16 1:22m} Qa5 {1:44m} 44.Ka2 {+9.68/18 0s}
Rd2 {8:30m (Ka7)} 45.Qc1 {+10.22/18 1:44m} Rd8 {17s} 46.f5 {+10.67/18 1:23m}
exf5 {1:30m (Qc7)} 47.e6 {+16.11/18 3:15m} Qc7 {3:37m} 48.Qg5 {+16.32/20 0s}
Qb6 {13s} 49.Qg3+ {+16.32/19 1:50m} Kc8 {1:30m} 50.e7 {+17.96/18 1:07m}
Qxh6 {4:28m} 51.e8=Q {+277.70/23 10:35m} Rxh7 {53s (Qb6)} 52.Qf3 {+M150/17 1:30m}
Qf6 {1:41m (Qa6)} 53.Qb5 {+M7/13 0s} Rd5 {1:17m (Qxb2+)} 54.Qxd5 {+M6/11 0s}
Qxb2+ {16s} 55.Qxb2 {+M5/9 0s} 1-0


Of course Gridchess is improved, but so is Shredder. In Paderborn Shredder run on a Quad this time it is a 8way Xeon (but that difference is smaler than one would expect)

BYe
Ingo