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slobo
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Post by slobo Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:50 pm
So, you think: if the evaluation function is the same in Rybka and Strelka, then Strelka is Rykba´s clone, don´t you?
But I tell you: in this case, it´s easy to solve the problem:
the Strelka´s evaluation function is known. Ask from Rybka´s author the
Rybka 1.0 beta´s evaluation function, and compare them.
If you and Vasik are sure Strelka is a clone, then there is no secrets about the Rybka 1.0 beta´s evaluation function any more. Reveal it then, and copmare it with the Strelka´s evaluation function.
But the question will remain: are an engines a clone if it has the same evaluation function as the eval. function of another one?
"Well, I´m just a soul whose intentions are good,
Alexander Schmidt
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Post by Alexander Schmidt Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:54 pm
slobo wrote: Ask from Rybka´s author the
Yes, Vas will be happy to show his evaluation functions to the public...
If you are interested in Vas' opinion: He say's Strelka is a Clone. Really everything is said in this matter.
slobo
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Post by slobo Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:59 pm
Alexander Schmidt wrote: slobo wrote: Ask from Rybka´s author the
Yes, Vas will be happy to show his evaluation functions to the public...
If you are interested in Vas' opinion: He say's Strelka is a Clone. Really everything is said in this matter.
We are not interested in what X ou Y says. We sould look at evidences.
By the way, thanks for Tossa.
"Well, I´m just a soul whose intentions are good,
Alexander Schmidt
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Post by Alexander Schmidt Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:13 pm
slobo wrote: We sould look at evidences.
Just open your eyes
Have fun with Tossa!
Alex
Christopher Conkie
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Post by Christopher Conkie Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:20 pm
SzG wrote: Christopher Conkie wrote: I would not worry about these people shooting in the dark.
'These people shooting in the dark?' Only you, Christopher, mentioned 'strange things' about Bright. Oh yes, you were 'mixed up'.
Yes...actually the engine now that ive asked that we found with that strangeness was Erendal.
Anyway....no one could find anything wrong with Bright, so whats your problem?
Tony Thomas
Post by Tony Thomas Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:30 pm
Christopher Conkie wrote: SzG wrote: Christopher Conkie wrote: I would not worry about these people shooting in the dark.
'These people shooting in the dark?' Only you, Christopher, mentioned 'strange things' about Bright. Oh yes, you were 'mixed up'.
Yes...actually the engine now that ive asked that we found with that strangeness was Erendal.
Anyway....no one could find anything wrong with Bright, so whats your problem?
Why not Equilibrium??
Christopher Conkie
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Post by Christopher Conkie Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:38 pm
Tony Thomas wrote: Christopher Conkie wrote: SzG wrote: Christopher Conkie wrote: I would not worry about these people shooting in the dark.
'These people shooting in the dark?' Only you, Christopher, mentioned 'strange things' about Bright. Oh yes, you were 'mixed up'.
Yes...actually the engine now that ive asked that we found with that strangeness was Erendal.
Anyway....no one could find anything wrong with Bright, so whats your problem?
Why not Equilibrium??
What?
Christopher Conkie
Posts: 6073Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:34 pmLocation: Scotland
Post by Christopher Conkie Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:44 pm
SzG wrote: Christopher Conkie wrote: SzG wrote: Christopher Conkie wrote: I would not worry about these people shooting in the dark.
'These people shooting in the dark?' Only you, Christopher, mentioned 'strange things' about Bright. Oh yes, you were 'mixed up'.
Yes...actually the engine now that ive asked that we found with that strangeness was Erendal.
Anyway....no one could find anything wrong with Bright, so whats your problem?
It seemed to me that you'd attacked Bright then pretended it wasn't you. I may have overlooked something, though.
Hmmmm.....
"Bright seems ok unless we have missed something. It was looked at by those who could a long time before now."
Overlooked?
Get glasses....any kind of looking be it over, under or straight at would have helped.
Jumping Gabor and his attitude......
That's why we love you.......
Christopher Conkie
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Post by Christopher Conkie Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:47 pm
Alexander Schmidt wrote: Christopher Conkie wrote: As for Bright...no one who had it could find anything.
After looking at Bright I would say it is the least "fruity" engine or engineupdate since a long time
Congrats Allard!
Alex
Yes, it's quite strong. It is at least somewhere in the top 50 engines I would say.
Christopher
ernest
Posts: 2041Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:30 pm
Post by ernest Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:54 pm
Christopher Conkie wrote: .............
Hi Christopher,
You were the guy who insisted very loud on getting both
the 1.0 and 1.8 data tables of Strelka
See the threads:
About strelka1.8 sources
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=
and
Finally I have sent Strelka's tables to Mr. Conkie
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=
You have been privileged to receive them and have now been in possession of these tables since the beginning of October!!!
Have you studied them and drawn any conclusions?
