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Re: New fide rule that will help you beat your computer : )

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:05 am

tjfroh wrote:Dr. Deeb,

Which doctor did you hear that from? Witch doctor?

Influenza and adenoviruses are spread by droplets, by handshaking, by contact with contaminated surfaces, fecal-orally and by eating food that has the virus on it ie salads, cold foods.

http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2006 ... 80892.html

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Mike S. wrote:To me, it is logical that FIDE considers FIDE chess events not as appropriate places to demonstrate individual disrespect, and that such actions disturb the character of a fair sport event.

While I appreciate that, I also take note that FIDE is aware that other forms of friendly social behaviour may take place, because they explain "(...) shake hands with the opponent (or greets the opponent in a normal social manner in accordance with the conventional rules of their society) before the game starts (...)" For example, I can imagine that in a tournament between military chess teams, players salute instead of shaking hands :mrgreen:

In general, I think the tradition of shaking hands is not optimal from a health/medical viewpoint. It is clear that - for instance in periods where influenza is dangerous - viruses are spread by shaking hands. Recently, I was shocked to learn that even in a small country like Austria where I am, 3,000 people per year die from influenza. I think the traditions of shaking hands could be replaced by a similar gesture, but without actually touching each other. That would save lifes! The United Nations should propagate that.
Hi Mike,
Viruses of the Influenza spread by air,not by shaking hands :mrgreen:
The Influenza virus affect you when you breath it,not by shaking hands,even the little children are aware of this fact,I wonder what type of paramedic are you.... :roll:
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Re: New fide rule that will help you beat your computer : )

Post by Terry McCracken » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:55 pm

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
tjfroh wrote:Dr. Deeb,

Which doctor did you hear that from? Witch doctor?

Influenza and adenoviruses are spread by droplets, by handshaking, by contact with contaminated surfaces, fecal-orally and by eating food that has the virus on it ie salads, cold foods.

http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2006 ... 80892.html

Uncle Timbo

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Mike S. wrote:To me, it is logical that FIDE considers FIDE chess events not as appropriate places to demonstrate individual disrespect, and that such actions disturb the character of a fair sport event.

While I appreciate that, I also take note that FIDE is aware that other forms of friendly social behaviour may take place, because they explain "(...) shake hands with the opponent (or greets the opponent in a normal social manner in accordance with the conventional rules of their society) before the game starts (...)" For example, I can imagine that in a tournament between military chess teams, players salute instead of shaking hands :mrgreen:

In general, I think the tradition of shaking hands is not optimal from a health/medical viewpoint. It is clear that - for instance in periods where influenza is dangerous - viruses are spread by shaking hands. Recently, I was shocked to learn that even in a small country like Austria where I am, 3,000 people per year die from influenza. I think the traditions of shaking hands could be replaced by a similar gesture, but without actually touching each other. That would save lifes! The United Nations should propagate that.
Hi Mike,
Viruses of the Influenza spread by air,not by shaking hands :mrgreen:
The Influenza virus affect you when you breath it,not by shaking hands,even the little children are aware of this fact,I wonder what type of paramedic are you.... :roll:
Actually it is very possible to catch the flu by shaking hands or even off a shopping cart, as the flu virus can live for some time outside the body.
Regardless this isn't really the issue, the issue is respect for the opponent and not shaking hands is considered contempt for your opponent so under protest the FIDE changed the official rules back in June last year.

I don't agree with this new rule and it will lead to other problems. You can't make people respect or like each other.

Terry

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Re: New fide rule that will help you beat your computer : )

Post by mariaclara » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:59 pm

:D

Terry,

just a matter of time before they attach a shaking hand
to pcs

:roll: :roll: hehehe...
.
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Re: New fide rule that will help you beat your computer : )

Post by genorb » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:43 pm

Mike S. wrote:
pedrox wrote: I could have died when I shake hands.
While this seems funny, it is a realistic danger. Maybe not in 999 from 1,000 cases, but nevertheless. So, if we have the choices:

1. keep a risky tradition, or
2. go for zero risk with no downside

what should we choose? I guess mankind is intelligent enough to respect and greet each other without touching hands. Maybe I still overestimate mankind's intelligence (despite experiences from CCC :mrgreen: )...
If one is worried about shaking hands, then one should also avoid to touch anything that has been touch (with hands) by someone else...

Moreover, if one is afraid about small, yet non zero, risks, noboby should be allowed to use cars for example, it kills people directly every days (accident) and indirectly (pollution). I think that using cars is much more "dangerous" than shaking hands...

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Re: New fide rule that will help you beat your computer : )

Post by AdminX » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:15 pm

Well, Short has now won twice!! :lol: :lol:

[Event "Corus Chess 2008"]
[Site "Wijk aan Zee"]
[Date "2008.01.21"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Short, Nigel D"]
[Black "Cheparinov, Ivan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B92"]
[WhiteElo "2645"]
[BlackElo "2713"]
[Annotator "Robot 3"]
[PlyCount "143"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e5 7. Nb3 Be7 8. O-O
O-O 9. Be3 Be6 10. Nd5 Nbd7 11. Qd3 Bxd5 12. exd5 Rc8 13. c4 a5 14. Kh1 Re8 15.
Rad1 Bf8 16. Nd2 g6 17. b3 Bg7 18. a3 h5 19. f3 b6 20. b4 axb4 21. axb4 e4 22.
fxe4 Ne5 23. Qb3 Neg4 24. Bg5 Qd7 25. Qb1 Ra8 26. h3 Nh7 27. Bf4 Ne5 28. c5
bxc5 29. bxc5 Reb8 30. Qc2 dxc5 31. Qxc5 Rc8 32. Qe3 Nf8 33. Qg3 Qe8 34. Bb5
Qe7 35. Nf3 Nxf3 36. Qxf3 Rc3 37. Rd3 Raa3 38. e5 Rxd3 39. Bxd3 Nd7 40. e6 fxe6
41. Qe2 Nf8 42. Bc4 Rc3 43. dxe6 Rxc4 44. Qxc4 Qxe6 45. Qxe6+ Nxe6 46. Be3 Nd4
47. Kg1 Nf5 48. Bc5 Be5 49. Re1 Bc3 50. Re4 Kf7 51. Kf2 Bf6 52. Ra4 Ke6 53. Ke2
Kf7 54. Bf2 Ke6 55. Kd3 Kf7 56. Ra7+ Ke6 57. Ra6+ Kf7 58. Ke4 Bb2 59. Rc6 Bg7
60. Be1 Bf6 61. Bc3 Bh4 62. Be5 Bg5 63. Ra6 Bh4 64. Bf4 Bf6 65. g4 hxg4 66.
hxg4 Ng7 67. Be5 Be7 68. Kd5 Ne8 69. Ra7 Nf6+ 70. Bxf6 Kxf6 71. g5+ Kf7 72.
Rxe7+ 1-0
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Re: New fide rule that will help you beat your computer : )

Post by gerold » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:43 pm

AdminX wrote:Well, Short has now won twice!! :lol: :lol:

[Event "Corus Chess 2008"]
[Site "Wijk aan Zee"]
[Date "2008.01.21"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Short, Nigel D"]
[Black "Cheparinov, Ivan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B92"]
[WhiteElo "2645"]
[BlackElo "2713"]
[Annotator "Robot 3"]
[PlyCount "143"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e5 7. Nb3 Be7 8. O-O
O-O 9. Be3 Be6 10. Nd5 Nbd7 11. Qd3 Bxd5 12. exd5 Rc8 13. c4 a5 14. Kh1 Re8 15.
Rad1 Bf8 16. Nd2 g6 17. b3 Bg7 18. a3 h5 19. f3 b6 20. b4 axb4 21. axb4 e4 22.
fxe4 Ne5 23. Qb3 Neg4 24. Bg5 Qd7 25. Qb1 Ra8 26. h3 Nh7 27. Bf4 Ne5 28. c5
bxc5 29. bxc5 Reb8 30. Qc2 dxc5 31. Qxc5 Rc8 32. Qe3 Nf8 33. Qg3 Qe8 34. Bb5
Qe7 35. Nf3 Nxf3 36. Qxf3 Rc3 37. Rd3 Raa3 38. e5 Rxd3 39. Bxd3 Nd7 40. e6 fxe6
41. Qe2 Nf8 42. Bc4 Rc3 43. dxe6 Rxc4 44. Qxc4 Qxe6 45. Qxe6+ Nxe6 46. Be3 Nd4
47. Kg1 Nf5 48. Bc5 Be5 49. Re1 Bc3 50. Re4 Kf7 51. Kf2 Bf6 52. Ra4 Ke6 53. Ke2
Kf7 54. Bf2 Ke6 55. Kd3 Kf7 56. Ra7+ Ke6 57. Ra6+ Kf7 58. Ke4 Bb2 59. Rc6 Bg7
60. Be1 Bf6 61. Bc3 Bh4 62. Be5 Bg5 63. Ra6 Bh4 64. Bf4 Bf6 65. g4 hxg4 66.
hxg4 Ng7 67. Be5 Be7 68. Kd5 Ne8 69. Ra7 Nf6+ 70. Bxf6 Kxf6 71. g5+ Kf7 72.
Rxe7+ 1-0
Very good. Thanks for the report.
Gerold.

http://blip.tv/file/611558

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