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What great game, Carlsen vs. Anand!

Post by AdminX » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:12 pm

What great game, Carlsen vs. Anand!

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The opening was a Sicilian with Carlsen throwing everything at Anand's kingside, he played with a Win or nothing atittude which cost him his lead in the event.

[d]1r2rbk1/1p1n1ppp/p3b3/3NpNP1/P3P2Q/8/1Pq3BP/2R2R1K b - - 0 24
Here Carlsen starts a plan to bring his Rook over to the Kingside via the c3 square. The plan looks good. However Carlsen faulters a little four moves late.

[d]1r2rbk1/1p1n1p2/p3b1p1/q2NpNPp/4P2Q/1P5R/6BP/5R1K w - h6 0 28
Here Carlsen plays 28. Bf3, it looks like 28. gxh6 would have been better.

[d]1r2rbk1/1p1n1p2/p3b1p1/q2NpNPp/4P2Q/1P3B1R/7P/5R1K b - - 0 28
Here Anand finds the defensive resource 28 . ... Bxd5 exchanging down some material, but misses his chance to exchange down even more on his next move.

[d]1r2r1k1/1p1n1pb1/p5p1/q2PpNPp/7Q/1P3B1R/7P/5R1K w - - 0 30
This is where Anand now faulters, he should have played 29. ... Qb5. Activating the queen and offering to trade down even more material. Because Carlsen now plays the strong 30. Bxh5! Bring life back to his Kingside attack.

[d]1r2r1k1/1p1n1pb1/p5p1/q2PpNPB/7Q/1P5R/7P/5R1K b - - 0 30
30. Bxh5!

[d]1r2r3/1p1nk1Q1/p5P1/q2PpR2/8/1P5R/7P/7K b - - 0 35
It's not often we see Anand's king hunted out into the open like this, but he defended well and won the game.

Surely a game worth studying ...

[Event "Corus Chess 2008"]
[Site "Wijk aan Zee"]
[Date "2008.01.25"]
[Round "11"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B85"]
[WhiteElo "2733"]
[BlackElo "2799"]
[PlyCount "84"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e6 7. a4 Nc6 8. O-O
Be7 9. Be3 O-O 10. f4 Qc7 11. Kh1 Re8 12. Bf3 Rb8 13. Qd2 Bf8 14. Qf2 Bd7 15.
g4 e5 16. Nf5 exf4 17. Bxf4 Be6 18. Rad1 Ne5 19. Bxe5 dxe5 20. g5 Nd7 21. Nd5
Qc6 22. Bg2 Qc5 23. Qh4 Qxc2 24. Rc1 Qxa4 25. b3 Qa5 26. Rc3 g6 27. Rh3 h5 28.
Bf3 Bxd5 29. exd5 Bg7 30. Bxh5 gxf5 31. Bxf7+ Kxf7 32. g6+ Kg8 33. Qh7+ Kf8 34.
Rxf5+ Ke7 35. Qxg7+ Kd6 36. Rf7 Qxd5+ 37. Kg1 Rbd8 38. Rh7 Qd4+ 39. Kg2 Qg4+
40. Kh1 Rg8 41. Rf6+ Kc7 42. Qe7 Qe4+ 0-1
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Re: What great game, Carlsen vs. Anand!

Post by mariaclara » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:51 pm

:D

Hi Ted,

did you find a good reply to Black's 29th...Bg7 move?
aside from that Bxh5.

or going back. another plan for white, other than that 26.Rc3-h3 plan?

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Re: What great game, Carlsen vs. Anand!

Post by Uri » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:59 pm

Here Shredder 10 thinks that after 50.Qf8+ it's a draw but it's obviously not. After 50...Ka7 black wins.

[D]1k6/1p1r4/p5P1/2Q1p3/6q1/1P6/5K1P/8 w - - 0 50

Analysis by Shredder 10 (depth 17/46):

1. = (0.00): 50.Qf8+ Kc7 51.Qc5+ Kd8 52.Qf8+ Kc7 53.Qc5+ Kd8 54.Qf8+ Kc7
2. -+ (-13.95): 50.Qxe5+ Ka7 51.Qe3+ b6 52.h4

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Re: What great game, Carlsen vs. Anand!

Post by AdminX » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:00 pm

mariaclara wrote::D

Hi Ted,

did you find a good reply to Black's 29th...Bg7 move?
aside from that Bxh5.

or going back. another plan for white, other than that 26.Rc3-h3 plan?

thanks
Hi Clare,

No I did not, I liked Carlsen's ideas, I just felt he was a bit to aggressive when playing someone the level of Anand in these types of positions. I thought move 15 g4!? was a interesting idea. Now if he were playing Topalov, I think Carlsen's moves would have had better chances.
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Re: What great game, Carlsen vs. Anand!

Post by George Tsavdaris » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:23 pm

Uri wrote:Here Shredder 10 thinks that after 50.Qf8+ it's a draw but it's obviously not. After 50...Ka7 black wins.

[D]1k6/1p1r4/p5P1/2Q1p3/6q1/1P6/5K1P/8 w - - 0 50

Analysis by Shredder 10 (depth 17/46):

1. = (0.00): 50.Qf8+ Kc7 51.Qc5+ Kd8 52.Qf8+ Kc7 53.Qc5+ Kd8 54.Qf8+ Kc7
2. -+ (-13.95): 50.Qxe5+ Ka7 51.Qe3+ b6 52.h4
I remember a while back where you posted another position and "your" Shredder 10 failed to see a winning move while "mine" found it.
This is the case again.
I wonder why....

My Shredder 10 finds that white loses with or without Qf8+ in 1 second!

Analysis by Shredder 10 UCI:

1.Qc5-e3 Qg4-f5+ 2.Kf2-e1 Qf5-b1+ 3.Ke1-f2 Qb1-c2+ 4.Kf2-g3 Rd7-d3 5.Qe3xd3
-+ (-10.00) Depth: 6/23 00:00:01 59kN
1.Qc5-f8+
-+ (-9.99) Depth: 6/23 00:00:01 92kN
1.Qc5-f8+
-+ (-9.64) Depth: 6/23 00:00:01 101kN
1.Qc5-f8+ Kb8-a7 2.Qf8-c5+ b7-b6 3.Qc5-c3 Qg4-f5+ 4.Kf2-e2 Qf5xg6 5.Qc3xe5 Qg6-c2+ 6.Ke2-f1
-+ (-7.90) Depth: 6/23 00:00:01 131kN
1.Qc5-c3
-+ (-7.89) Depth: 6/23 00:00:02 142kN
1.Qc5-c3 Qg4-f4+ 2.Kf2-e2 Qf4xh2+ 3.Ke2-e1 Qh2-g1+ 4.Ke1-e2 Qg1-g2+ 5.Ke2-e1 Rd7-d4
-+ (-7.81) Depth: 6/23 00:00:02 156kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-7.78) Depth: 6/24 00:00:02 193kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-7.78) Depth: 6/24 00:00:02 193kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-7.78) Depth: 7/7 00:00:02 195kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-7.78) Depth: 8/8 00:00:02 213kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-7.78) Depth: 9/9 00:00:03 248kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7 2.Qe5-e3+ b7-b6 3.g6-g7
-+ (-7.65) Depth: 10/32 00:00:04 1935kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-7.90) Depth: 11/31 00:00:06 2346kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-8.40) Depth: 11/31 00:00:06 2689kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7 2.Qe5-e3+ b7-b6 3.b3-b4
-+ (-10.59) Depth: 11/33 00:00:12 5029kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-10.84) Depth: 12/33 00:00:19 7820kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-11.34) Depth: 12/33 00:00:20 8290kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7 2.Qe5-e3+ b7-b6 3.h2-h4 Qg4xg6 4.Qe3-e5
-+ (-11.81) Depth: 12/35 00:00:24 10305kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7 2.Qe5-e3+ b7-b6 3.h2-h4 Qg4xg6 4.h4-h5 Qg6-c2+ 5.Kf2-f3 Rd7-d3 6.b3-b4 Rd3xe3+ 7.Kf3xe3 Qc2-b3+
-+ (-11.81) Depth: 13/37 00:00:37 16065kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-12.06) Depth: 14/36 00:00:48 20844kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7
-+ (-12.56) Depth: 14/41 00:01:02 27430kN
1.Qc5xe5+ Kb8-a7 2.Qe5-e3+ b7-b6 3.b3-b4 Qg4xg6
-+ (-14.14) Depth: 14/41 00:02:01 55780kN
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Viswanathan Anand's Press conference

Post by AdminX » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:03 pm

See and hear Anand's thoughts on his game with Carlsen posted on Chess Vibes:

http://www.chessvibes.com/videos/corus- ... ce-anand2/
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Re: Viswanathan Anand's Press conference

Post by M ANSARI » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:50 pm

I don't know ... it just seems that white missed a win somewhere. This needs lots of heavy analysis on a fast computer.

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Re: Viswanathan Anand's Press conference

Post by Peter Skinner » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:11 am

M ANSARI wrote:I don't know ... it just seems that white missed a win somewhere. This needs lots of heavy analysis on a fast computer.
I just annotated the game with Crafty 22.0, and has some interesting results:

Annotation

2 min search time per move.

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Re: What great game, Carlsen vs. Anand!

Post by Tony Thomas » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:19 am

George, may be he fought in caribeans against Johny dep and got his Shredder from one of those ships.

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Re: Viswanathan Anand's Press conference

Post by mariaclara » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:20 am

:D

Ted,

thanks for the link.
(also clicked and checked out Carlsen's analysis)

we can hear and see how they analyze/view the positions/possibilities.

Peter,

nice variations. still looks like White could've drawn? :wink:
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