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Tony Thomas

Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Tony Thomas » Thu May 22, 2008 3:19 am

beachknight wrote:
By the way, are you going to vote for me?
This is a very delicate issue. I am not even sure whether
I am eligible to vote. Has voting process started? Who
are the nominees?

Best,

PS : Please pm me about some private engines
that I want to have and test. LOL.
I dont see why you wouldnt be eligible to vote..You are kidding about the private engines right??

Tony Thomas

Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Tony Thomas » Thu May 22, 2008 3:32 am

beachknight wrote:Geko, not GreKo, Tony. GreKo plays fine.

Best,

PS : I predicted that you will say that
ECE 0.2.1 plays smoothly to that I agree too. LOL.
My fault, it was a spelling mistake, I am talking about Geko 0.4.3..I have 24 games with the engine and no losses due to bugs. Being weak isnt a bug you know, it plays fast and doesnt reach good depths though.. Here is a sample game.. By the way, I checked on Cheops, it plays fine here... Also I just remembered something, if you assigned a GUI book for Geko, it plays illegal moves. No book, geko plays fine.

Edit : no book for Cheops either..

[Event "Grand intro"]
[Site "Atlanta, Ga"]
[Date "2008.05.13"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Nesik 0.7.0 (Alpha)"]
[Black "Cheops 1.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A50"]
[Opening "Indian"]
[Time "09:58:36"]
[Variation "Black Knights' Tango (Mexican Defence-Kevitz-Trajkovich Defence), 3.Nf3"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.d4 Nc6 {+0.37/3} 2.Nf3 Nf6 {+0.65/3} 3.c4 Ne4 {+0.75/3} 4.d5 {+0.37/8 3} Nb4
{+0.45/3} 5.Nbd2 {+0.49/9 3} Nxd2 {+0.74/3} 6.Bxd2 {+0.61/8 2} a5 {-0.17/3} 7.a3 {+1.11/9
3} Na6 {-1.14/3} 8.Bxa5 {+1.04/8 3} Nc5 {+0.24/3} 9.Bb4 {+0.97/8 2} Ne4 {-0.50/3}
10.Qd4 {+1.45/8 2} f5 {-0.68/3} 11.O-O-O {+1.57/8 2} Ra4 {+0.18/3} 12.Nd2 {+1.95/7 2}
c5 {+1.36/3} 13.dxc6 {+2.91/8 2} dxc6 {-0.21/3 1} 14.Qxd8+ {+4.97/9 2} Kxd8
{-3.79/3} 15.Nxe4+ {+5.06/9 1} Bd7 {-0.95/3} 16.Nc5 {+9.23/9 2} Ra7 {-9.23/3} 17.Nxd7
{+9.19/8 2} Ke8 {-7.85/3} 18.Ne5 {+9.43/8 1} Ra4 {-6.33/3} 19.Rd7 {+10.76/9 1} b6
{-7.56/3} 20.Rb7 {+11.24/10 2} Ra8 {-8.41/3} 21.Nxc6 {+11.28/9 2} Rc8 {-8.28/3} 22.Rxb6
{+11.49/8 2} g5 {-9.10/3} 23.e3 {+11.69/8 2} h5 {-9.19/3} 24.b3 {+11.87/7 1} Rh6
{-7.56/3} 25.c5 {+11.60/9 2} Rcxc6 {-6.54/3} 26.Rxc6 {+14.21/10 1} Rxc6 {-6.03/3} 27.Bb5
{+14.32/10 2} Kd7 {-12.71/3} 28.Rd1+ {+15.23/11 1} Kc7 {-12.71/3} 29.Ba5+ {+21.33/10 2}
Kb7 {-12.67/3} {1-0 Arena Adjudication} 1-0


[Event "Grand intro"]
[Site "Atlanta, Ga"]
[Date "2008.05.17"]
[Round "1"]
[White "RomiChessP3k"]
[Black "Geko 0.4.3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "03:30:15"]
[Variation "3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "77"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 h6 5.Bxf6 {+0.64/12 3} Qxf6 6.exd5 {+0.48/11 3}
exd5 7.Nxd5 {+1.16/11 2} Qc6 8.Bb5 {+7.76/13 3} Qxb5 9.Nxc7+ {+9.87/12 2} Kd8
10.Nxb5 {+9.51/13 3} Bd7 11.a4 {+9.41/11 4} a6 12.Nc3 {+9.48/12 3} Nc6 13.Nd5 {+9.48/12
3} Be6 14.Nb6 {+10.92/14 3} Bb4+ 15.c3 {+12.06/13 3} Bd6 16.d5 {+12.21/12 2} Kc7
17.Nxa8+ {+13.76/12 2} Rxa8 18.dxe6 {+13.99/13 2} fxe6 19.Qg4 {+15.53/12 1} Rf8 20.Qxg7+
{+17.08/12 2} Be7 21.Qxh6 {+17.62/12 2} Rf6 22.Qg7 {+17.94/12 2} Rf4 23.Ne2 {+18.29/12 2}
Re4 24.Qg6 {+18.36/11 1} Re5 25.h4 {+18.65/11 1} Bc5 26.Rd1 {+18.60/11 1} Ne7
27.Qg7 {+19.11/12 1} Re4 28.Qg3+ {+21.21/12 2} e5 29.Qd3 {+23.26/12 1} Rxa4 30.Qd8+
{+24.71/12 1} Kc6 31.Qd7+ {+25.63/12 1} Kb6 32.Qxa4 {+26.12/13 2} Kc7 33.Qc4 {+27.33/13 2}
Kc6 34.b4 {+27.65/12 1} b6 35.bxc5 {+33.91/11 2} Kc7 36.cxb6+ {+M8/4} Kxb6 37.Rb1+
{+M3/5} Ka7 38.Qc7+ {+M2/4} Ka8 39.Qb7# {+M1/4} {Mate} 1-0

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Re: Any success with these engines

Post by beachknight » Thu May 22, 2008 11:15 pm

Two more engines, Tony.

-- Awesome

and

-- Jupiter

Best,
hi, merhaba, hallo HT

Tony Thomas

Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Tony Thomas » Sat May 24, 2008 8:13 pm

beachknight wrote:Two more engines, Tony.

-- Awesome

and

-- Jupiter

Best,
I think most of the engine problems are system specific, I have no problems here with either of those engines. Here is list # 24, new to the list is Taktix 2.23x, it doesnt have any other problems other than time losses under incremental time controls. It plays fine in 40/40.

Update 24, Tony's no play list

AKIBA 0.0 (version number not known) (moves too slow and loses on time)
Alice 0.35?? (frequent time losses, could be a cygwin problem)
Animats Chess 1.1.1.1 (not suitable for tournaments)
Apilchess 1.05 rev.1b (eternal pondering)
Arics 0.95 (does not move)
Bachess 1.3 (always runs out of time)
Babychess 11.1 (frequent crashes, illegal moves etc) Later versions not available..
Blitzer 2.0 (unexplainable time losses)
Brama 051204 (time losses)
Crux 5.0m (crashes about 10% of the time, decently strong engine)
Dendron 0.42 (frequent illegal moves)
El-Turco 0.93 (crashes)
Fianchetto (doesnt move in some games)
iChess(I just cant get it to work)
Jaksah 1.01 (time losses)
Joanna 2002 1.0
Joana DC by Juan Pablo Menoza (crashes, and subsequent time losses)
Kace 0.8.1 (time losses)
Knightmare BP (does not follow 3/0 or 1/1 time controls)
Lamosca 0.10 (time losses)
MFchess 1.1 (time losses)
Mooboo 0.4e (illegal moves, time losses)
Muriel aka KDL chess 0.71 (time losses, could be hardware specific as others arent having problems)
NSVchess 0.14 (illegal move during compatibility test)
Pulchess 0.2i (doesnt follow any time controls)
Sharpchess2 2.52 (time losses)
Simontacchi 1.8 decepticon (time losses)
Taktix 2.23 x (time losses, fine in you are using tournament time controls)
Talvemanni 0.0.1 (does not follow any of the time controls xm+1sec, game in x or 40 moves in Xminutes)
Trynyty 1.0 (bugs that I am scared to explain)
Youk 1.05 (during compatibility test it resigned against me in a fairly equal position)
Zchess 2 from Eamonn Ramsay (loses on time, 100% of the time)
Zephyr 0.61 (time losses)

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Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sat May 24, 2008 10:11 pm

Taktix plays fine with incremental time controls Tony,no problems whatever,I am talking about long time controls though....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….

Tony Thomas

Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Tony Thomas » Sat May 24, 2008 11:21 pm

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Taktix plays fine with incremental time controls Tony,no problems whatever,I am talking about long time controls though....
I contacted the author of the program since he is still around. Here is his reply...
Matthias Gemuh wrote:Hi Tony,
BigLion, BigLion80 and Taktix may not be suitable for 1+1.
ArcBishop80 manages 1+1 better.
Best,
Matthias.
After further communication I realized that even though Archbishop wont lose on time it isnt as strong as biglion or taktix. You do have to realize that 1min+1sec isnt a long time.

Tony Thomas

Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Tony Thomas » Mon May 26, 2008 2:24 am

Another engine added to the list, the new entry is Testina, it just loses on time about 15% of the time.

Update 25, Tony's no play list

AKIBA 0.0 (version number not known) (moves too slow and loses on time)
Alice 0.35?? (frequent time losses, could be a cygwin problem)
Animats Chess 1.1.1.1 (not suitable for tournaments)
Apilchess 1.05 rev.1b (eternal pondering)
Arics 0.95 (does not move)
Bachess 1.3 (always runs out of time)
Babychess 11.1 (frequent crashes, illegal moves etc) Later versions not available..
Blitzer 2.0 (unexplainable time losses)
Brama 051204 (time losses)
Crux 5.0m (crashes about 10% of the time, decently strong engine)
Dendron 0.42 (frequent illegal moves)
El-Turco 0.93 (crashes)
Fianchetto (doesnt move in some games)
iChess(I just cant get it to work)
Jaksah 1.01 (time losses)
Joanna 2002 1.0
Joana DC by Juan Pablo Menoza (crashes, and subsequent time losses)
Kace 0.8.1 (time losses)
Knightmare BP (does not follow 3/0 or 1/1 time controls)
Lamosca 0.10 (time losses)
MFchess 1.1 (time losses)
Mooboo 0.4e (illegal moves, time losses)
Muriel aka KDL chess 0.71 (time losses, could be hardware specific as others arent having problems)
NSVchess 0.14 (illegal move during compatibility test)
Pulchess 0.2i (doesnt follow any time controls)
Sharpchess2 2.52 (time losses)
Simontacchi 1.8 decepticon (time losses)
Taktix 2.23 x (time losses, fine in you are using tournament time controls)
Talvemanni 0.0.1 (does not follow any of the time controls xm+1sec, game in x or 40 moves in Xminutes)
Testina 2.2 (time losses)
Trynyty 1.0 (bugs that I am scared to explain)
Youk 1.05 (during compatibility test it resigned against me in a fairly equal position)
Zchess 2 from Eamonn Ramsay (loses on time, 100% of the time)
Zephyr 0.61 (time losses)[/quote]

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Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Jim Ablett » Mon May 26, 2008 10:11 pm

beachknight wrote:
longest game with Cassandre was only 53 moves..Do you play with increments as well?? Did it lose on time way before 50 moves?
TC was 1+1.

Yes. Longest game was around 40 moves, but
Cassandre lost the most games before the move 20.

Best,
I adjusted the Cassandre's time-allocation.

http://mihd.net/ct4vron

Jim.

Tony Thomas

Re: Any success with these engines

Post by Tony Thomas » Tue May 27, 2008 4:53 am

Jim Ablett wrote:
beachknight wrote:
longest game with Cassandre was only 53 moves..Do you play with increments as well?? Did it lose on time way before 50 moves?
TC was 1+1.

Yes. Longest game was around 40 moves, but
Cassandre lost the most games before the move 20.

Best,
I adjusted the Cassandre's time-allocation.

http://mihd.net/ct4vron

Jim.
Jim, I didnt have any problems with Cassandre...Thanks for the fix anyway, hopefully you have a PGO compile..

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Re: Any success with these engines

Post by beachknight » Tue May 27, 2008 4:29 pm

Thx, Jim.

I'll include your build in my tournaments.

I have another question:

I want to test 64-bit engines, windows and linux ones.

Which linux 64-bit operating system is easy to use
and install for this purpose?

Best to you,
hi, merhaba, hallo HT

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