Has the Golden Age of computer chess now ended?
Deeper Blue beat the undisputed human World Champion many years ago, so that hurdle has been crossed.
Unlikely, any GM could beat a top program on a single Intel Quad Core.
Chessbase software has virtually every command you could ever want on it!
So what is left to talk/fight about ??
I think the golden age of chess is over now!
Cordially,
Sean Evans
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
you mix this up with Arena.Sean Evans wrote:Chessbase software has virtually every command you could ever want on it!
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
Rybka on the fastest computer still make weak moves, no chess engine is perfect. The weakness for different engines vary.
Improving the already stronger program is so difficult and require a lot of creativity and patience.
It takes ages to gain few elo(for top programs) but it wouldn't play that strong equivalent to theoretically solving chess. They still would make mistakes on correspondence chess even.
Chessbase has many features, for a GUI, but It's not complete. There are still some genuine innovations that chessbase is not aware of.
Strongest computer still has to play Top GM's to prove that they are indeed the strongest, so far they have only played 2600-2700 level GM's, that too not on Man vs Machine contest. Ofcourse, I give computers a slight edge on this but they need to play the GM to prove it.
When the engine has reached higher 3000 level, it is hard for programmers to invent new ideas, they have mostly run out of ideas that's why there's not much of a progress in recent time, some people find the current progress slow and unexciting. When there is competition for the top place, it brings back the excitement.
Improving the already stronger program is so difficult and require a lot of creativity and patience.
It takes ages to gain few elo(for top programs) but it wouldn't play that strong equivalent to theoretically solving chess. They still would make mistakes on correspondence chess even.
Chessbase has many features, for a GUI, but It's not complete. There are still some genuine innovations that chessbase is not aware of.
Strongest computer still has to play Top GM's to prove that they are indeed the strongest, so far they have only played 2600-2700 level GM's, that too not on Man vs Machine contest. Ofcourse, I give computers a slight edge on this but they need to play the GM to prove it.
When the engine has reached higher 3000 level, it is hard for programmers to invent new ideas, they have mostly run out of ideas that's why there's not much of a progress in recent time, some people find the current progress slow and unexciting. When there is competition for the top place, it brings back the excitement.
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
mclane wrote:you mix this up with Arena.Sean Evans wrote:Chessbase software has virtually every command you could ever want on it!
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
The question wasn't if the excitement in computer chess is over, the question was if the "goldenn era" of computer chess is over. The answer is yes.swami wrote:Rybka on the fastest computer still make weak moves, no chess engine is perfect. The weakness for different engines vary.
Improving the already stronger program is so difficult and require a lot of creativity and patience.
It takes ages to gain few elo(for top programs) but it wouldn't play that strong equivalent to theoretically solving chess. They still would make mistakes on correspondence chess even.
Chessbase has many features, for a GUI, but It's not complete. There are still some genuine innovations that chessbase is not aware of.
Strongest computer still has to play Top GM's to prove that they are indeed the strongest, so far they have only played 2600-2700 level GM's, that too not on Man vs Machine contest. Ofcourse, I give computers a slight edge on this but they need to play the GM to prove it.
When the engine has reached higher 3000 level, it is hard for programmers to invent new ideas, they have mostly run out of ideas that's why there's not much of a progress in recent time, some people find the current progress slow and unexciting. When there is competition for the top place, it brings back the excitement.
I hope you have been following computer chess for the last ten; if not, than you have already missed it.
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
no i don't think so.
what is gone is the time one could exploit computerchess for making money.
but this is not the same like the content computerchess continues.
people are still much interested, as you can see from the polls.
ferret, diep, isichess. people are interested in those programs !
people wait for rybka3.
and for the parallel fritz11 and mchess as uci and cstal3 as uci.
people wait for the next colossus. and and and.
what is gone is the time one could exploit computerchess for making money.
but this is not the same like the content computerchess continues.
people are still much interested, as you can see from the polls.
ferret, diep, isichess. people are interested in those programs !
people wait for rybka3.
and for the parallel fritz11 and mchess as uci and cstal3 as uci.
people wait for the next colossus. and and and.
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
Thorsten,you can help with at least one of the waitings to endmclane wrote:no i don't think so.
what is gone is the time one could exploit computerchess for making money.
but this is not the same like the content computerchess continues.
people are still much interested, as you can see from the polls.
ferret, diep, isichess. people are interested in those programs !
people wait for rybka3.
and for the parallel fritz11 and mchess as uci and cstal3 as uci.
people wait for the next colossus. and and and.
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
Interest in computer chess will wane once the game is solved.
I guess that will take a while yet.
I guess that will take a while yet.
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We won't be among the living people I assumeDann Corbit wrote:Interest in computer chess will wane once the game is solved.
I guess that will take a while yet.
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Re: Is Computer Chess Now Passe?
Maybe so, but we can enjoy the silver, even the brass age.
By example, I still wait a better gui than the one by chessbase. Something less technical and more funny. There is ample room for that.
Else: engines that really gives you a class of chess according an examination of your mistakes in specific games.
I am waiting for a universal chess theme capable of doing that and manage the rest of my things as If was a GM living in a little flat in NYC, with a desk with my chess board but also with bills to pay, letters to write, articles to read, books to examine, etc.
Total Life Chess.....
Fernando
By example, I still wait a better gui than the one by chessbase. Something less technical and more funny. There is ample room for that.
Else: engines that really gives you a class of chess according an examination of your mistakes in specific games.
I am waiting for a universal chess theme capable of doing that and manage the rest of my things as If was a GM living in a little flat in NYC, with a desk with my chess board but also with bills to pay, letters to write, articles to read, books to examine, etc.
Total Life Chess.....
Fernando