Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 4....

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Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 4....

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....by Bruce Pandolfini


Position 4:
Bobby Fischer-Joaquim Durao
Havana,1966
White's 33rd move....


[D]2nrkb2/5p2/1pr1p1pp/p1p1P3/P1N1NPP1/1RP4R/1P2K2P/8 w - - 0 1


Solution:33.Nxa5!,four of the black's pieces are in defensive positions
along the back rank and Fischer immediately exploites the situation....
After 33....bxa5 34.Nf6+ Ke7 35.Rb7+ and we have mate in two moves....
A brilliant sacrifice to say the least....

P.S.Come on Robin,don't tell me you saw that coming :P
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Re: Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 4....

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:....by Bruce Pandolfini


Position 4:
Bobby Fischer-Joaquim Durao
Havana,1966
White's 33rd move....


[D]2nrkb2/5p2/1pr1p1pp/p1p1P3/P1N1NPP1/1RP4R/1P2K2P/8 w - - 0 1


Solution:33.Nxa5!,four of the black's pieces are in defensive positions
along the back rank and Fischer immediately exploites the situation....
After 33....bxa5 34.Nf6+ Ke7 35.Rb7+ and we have mate in two moves....
A brilliant sacrifice to say the least....

P.S.Come on Robin,don't tell me you saw that coming :P
Yes! 4 for 4!! :D Who needs a computer!? :wink:
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Re: Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 4....

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:....by Bruce Pandolfini


Position 4:
Bobby Fischer-Joaquim Durao
Havana,1966
White's 33rd move....


[D]2nrkb2/5p2/1pr1p1pp/p1p1P3/P1N1NPP1/1RP4R/1P2K2P/8 w - - 0 1


Solution:33.Nxa5!,four of the black's pieces are in defensive positions
along the back rank and Fischer immediately exploites the situation....
After 33....bxa5 34.Nf6+ Ke7 35.Rb7+ and we have mate in two moves....
A brilliant sacrifice to say the least....

P.S.Come on Robin,don't tell me you saw that coming :P
Dr. Deeb,

If you tell Robin (or any strong player) that there is a combination in this position (i.e. it comes from Fisher's "best" moves... ) I'm 100% certain he'll find it in a few seconds at most... you underestimate humans Doc I believe... This is a know pattern executed in a rather simple and straightforward way. No chances he will miss this.
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Re: Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 4....

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Marc MP wrote:This is a know pattern executed in a rather simple and straightforward way.
Yes, a known and straightforward pattern. In fact just a slight variation on the pattern from position #3.... a deflection (this time the b-pawn) in order to produce a rook+knight mate. Perhaps the good Dr. Deeb has been hoodwinked by the book title? So far there has been absolutely nothing "outrageous" in any of the solutions.
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smirobth wrote:
Marc MP wrote:This is a know pattern executed in a rather simple and straightforward way.
Yes, a known and straightforward pattern. In fact just a slight variation on the pattern from position #3.... a deflection (this time the b-pawn) in order to produce a rook+knight mate. Perhaps the good Dr. Deeb has been hoodwinked by the book title? So far there has been absolutely nothing "outrageous" in any of the solutions.
I agree, not yet anyway.
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Re: Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 4....

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Crafty finds Nxa5 instantly, but does not find any mate... eval = +3.5
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bob wrote:Crafty finds Nxa5 instantly, but does not find any mate... eval = +3.5
I should have been more clear. There is no mate if Black doesn't capture the knight, it is a sham sacrifice that simply wins material against best defense.
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Re: Bobby Fischer outrageous chess moves,position 4....

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Marc MP wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:....by Bruce Pandolfini


Position 4:
Bobby Fischer-Joaquim Durao
Havana,1966
White's 33rd move....


[D]2nrkb2/5p2/1pr1p1pp/p1p1P3/P1N1NPP1/1RP4R/1P2K2P/8 w - - 0 1


Solution:33.Nxa5!,four of the black's pieces are in defensive positions
along the back rank and Fischer immediately exploites the situation....
After 33....bxa5 34.Nf6+ Ke7 35.Rb7+ and we have mate in two moves....
A brilliant sacrifice to say the least....

P.S.Come on Robin,don't tell me you saw that coming :P
Dr. Deeb,

If you tell Robin (or any strong player) that there is a combination in this position (i.e. it comes from Fisher's "best" moves... ) I'm 100% certain he'll find it in a few seconds at most... you underestimate humans Doc I believe... This is a know pattern executed in a rather simple and straightforward way. No chances he will miss this.
I am aware of the pattern issue and when presenting the position on a silver plate and telling the readers there is a combination,it's not too hard to figure out the winning move,but....can they do it in OTB game,under tournament conditions,and most importantly,can they reach such a position so that they can make their winning and according to Robin trivial move :!: :?:
I don't think so and this goes especialy when playing a top chess engine on a decent hardware,now here where I underestimate the humans....
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