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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by Jeroen » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:10 am

No, I didn't copy this from the Hiarcs forum, one of the Rybka forum moderators did.

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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by swami » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:20 am

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Rank Program Origin Hardware Score Games SOS SoDOS 
1 Rybka  USA Cluster, 40 cores 3.5 4 5.0 4.50 
2 Hiarcs  GBR Intel Skulltrail, 8 x 4Ghz 3.5 4 3.0 2.50 
3 Sjeng  BEL Intel Core 2, 4 x 2.8Ghz 2.5 4 4.0 2.00 
4 Junior  ISR Intel Dunnington, 12 x 2.67Ghz 2.5 3 3.0 2.50 
5 The Baron  NLD AMD Opteron 270, 4 x 2Ghz 2.0 4 7.0 1.75 
6 Jonny  DEU Cluster, 16 cores 1.0 4 12.0 2.50 
7 Cluster Toga  DEU Cluster, 24 cores 1.0 3 9.5 3.50 
8 Shredder  DEU Intel Core 2, 8 x 3.16Ghz 1.0 3 8.0 2.25 
9 Falcon  ISR Intel Core 2, 2 x 2.1Ghz 1.0 3 6.0 0.00 
10 Mobile Chess  CHN Nokia 6120c 0.0 4 9.0 0.00 
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/t ... php?id=178

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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by Steve B » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:36 am

swami wrote:

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Rank Program Origin Hardware Score Games SOS SoDOS 
1 Rybka  USA Cluster, 40 cores 3.5 4 5.0 4.50 
2 Hiarcs  GBR Intel Skulltrail, 8 x 4Ghz 3.5 4 3.0 2.50 
3 Sjeng  BEL Intel Core 2, 4 x 2.8Ghz 2.5 4 4.0 2.00 
4 Junior  ISR Intel Dunnington, 12 x 2.67Ghz 2.5 3 3.0 2.50 
5 The Baron  NLD AMD Opteron 270, 4 x 2Ghz 2.0 4 7.0 1.75 
6 Jonny  DEU Cluster, 16 cores 1.0 4 12.0 2.50 
7 Cluster Toga  DEU Cluster, 24 cores 1.0 3 9.5 3.50 
8 Shredder  DEU Intel Core 2, 8 x 3.16Ghz 1.0 3 8.0 2.25 
9 Falcon  ISR Intel Core 2, 2 x 2.1Ghz 1.0 3 6.0 0.00 
10 Mobile Chess  CHN Nokia 6120c 0.0 4 9.0 0.00 
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/t ... php?id=178
thanks Swami
seems the Cluster is the new powerhouse hardware on the block now
amazing to see Octals as the weaker hardware now with Clusters packing 16-40 cores

Hardware Rulez @ the WCCC's Regards
Steve

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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by Titu » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:12 am

Steve B wrote:
swami wrote:

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Rank Program Origin Hardware Score Games SOS SoDOS 
1 Rybka  USA Cluster, 40 cores 3.5 4 5.0 4.50 
2 Hiarcs  GBR Intel Skulltrail, 8 x 4Ghz 3.5 4 3.0 2.50 
3 Sjeng  BEL Intel Core 2, 4 x 2.8Ghz 2.5 4 4.0 2.00 
4 Junior  ISR Intel Dunnington, 12 x 2.67Ghz 2.5 3 3.0 2.50 
5 The Baron  NLD AMD Opteron 270, 4 x 2Ghz 2.0 4 7.0 1.75 
6 Jonny  DEU Cluster, 16 cores 1.0 4 12.0 2.50 
7 Cluster Toga  DEU Cluster, 24 cores 1.0 3 9.5 3.50 
8 Shredder  DEU Intel Core 2, 8 x 3.16Ghz 1.0 3 8.0 2.25 
9 Falcon  ISR Intel Core 2, 2 x 2.1Ghz 1.0 3 6.0 0.00 
10 Mobile Chess  CHN Nokia 6120c 0.0 4 9.0 0.00 
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/t ... php?id=178
thanks Swami
seems the Cluster is the new powerhouse hardware on the block now
amazing to see Octals as the weaker hardware now with Clusters packing 16-40 cores

Hardware Rulez @ the WCCC's Regards
Steve
Hi,
Just a little note that Zappa was using 512 cores few years ago at the WCCC. It did not win the championship.

Also Falcon with just 2 cores (laptop?) drew Junior, which used state of the art 12 cores Intel Dunnington. It's nice to see that the hardware is not everything.

Regards.

TL

Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by TL » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:58 am

Jeroen wrote:No, I didn't copy this from the Hiarcs forum, one of the Rybka forum moderators did.
Moderators shouldn't be doing that. That's where I got the pairings. The round times are from the Hiarcs forums. Thanks harvey for the reply and all the infomation you've provided :).

TL

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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by Peter Berger » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:33 pm

[quote="Gerd Isenberg

Hi Peter,

I don't see a big difference say to 2004 Ramat-Gan, except we all are four years older now. Why should it be the last one? As long they find sponsors who will pay 50K€ or something (which might not likely the case in the US or Canada). Levy has huge reputation and connections, so has Jaap with his new job in Tilburg. They are primary business and conference people and are used to stay in a nice and expensive ambience.

In the future, the focus will be even more on other games from the computer olympiad, and chess is a small minor add on, one game among others. This game scene is still more academic, probably similar to the cc scence in the 70ties and 80ties. May be ICGA should join or collect the soccer robot scene to get some fresh blood ;-)

Cheers,
Gerd[/quote]

possibly, but then: at least on CCC Ramat-Gan was mighty relevant - people really cared.

If people couldn't care less, the event ceizes to matter.

actually I tend to agree: chess might be one of the events, similar to 9*9 Go in the future. But I don't think that it will ever be special again.

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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by swami » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:20 am

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Result
Rank	Program	Origin	Hardware	Score	Games	SOS	SoDOS
1	Rybka	flag USA	Cluster, 40 cores	4.5	5	9.5	8.25
2	Hiarcs	flag GBR	Intel Skulltrail, 8 x 4Ghz	4.5	5	8.0	6.75
3	Junior	flag ISR	Intel Dunnington, 12 x 2.67Ghz	4.0	5	7.5	5.75
4	Cluster Toga	flag DEU	Cluster, 24 cores	2.5	5	17.0	7.50
5	Sjeng	flag BEL	Intel Core 2, 4 x 2.8Ghz	2.5	5	9.5	2.50
6	Shredder	flag DEU	Intel Core 2, 8 x 3.16Ghz	2.0	5	14.5	5.00
7	The Baron	flag NLD	AMD Opteron 270, 4 x 2Ghz	2.0	5	11.5	2.25
8	Jonny	flag DEU	Cluster, 16 cores	1.5	5	17.5	3.50
9	Falcon	flag ISR	Intel Core 2, 2 x 2.1Ghz	1.5	5	15.5	2.00
10	Mobile Chess	flag CHN	Nokia 6120c	0.0	5	14.5	0.00

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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by Steve B » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:50 am

Rank Program Origin Hardware Score Games SOS SoDOS
1 Rybka flag USA Cluster, 40 cores 4.5 5 9.5 8.25
2 Hiarcs flag GBR Intel Skulltrail, 8 x 4Ghz 4.5 5 8.0 6.75
3 Junior flag ISR Intel Dunnington, 12 x 2.67Ghz 4.0 5 7.5 5.75


now the real tournament begins
the top three leaders Hiarcs ,Rybka and Junior have not faced each other
also as a side attraction .. all three still have to play the cell phone

can you imagine the hysteria if Hiarcs running on "only" 8 cores wins while Rybka running on a Super Nova Cluster of 5x8 comes in 2 or even 3?(Junior running on 12 cores is only trialing the lead pack by .5)

DS3 is a bit of a disappointment but no surprise really as it is "only" running on a quad

we could be seeing Schachcomputer history in the making Regards
Steve
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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by swami » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:54 am

Steve B wrote:the real tournament begins now
the top three leaders Hiarcs ,Rybka and Junior has not faced each other
also as a side attraction .. all three still have to play the cell phone

can you imagine the hysteria if Hiarcs running on "only" 8 cores wins while Rybka running on a Super Nova Cluster of 5x8 comes in 2 or even 3?(Junior running on 12 cores is only trialing the lead pack by 1.2)

DS3 is a bit of a disappointment but no surprise really as it is "only" running on a quad

we could be seeing Schachcomputer history in the making Regards
Steve
Yes, real tournament is gonna begin, should be an interesting three way battle, I think hardware is quite over rated, especially on higher level :)

Sjeng is doing good despite the hardware disadvantage relative to other engines.

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Re: WCCC China 2008 (Round 3)

Post by Steve B » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:59 am

swami wrote:
Sjeng is doing good despite the hardware disadvantage relative to other engines.
DS 3 is really strong on my Revelation..much stronger than DS 1.8 which is on my Res I
To bad DS 3 didnt go to China with a Milky way Cluster of 40 or even 50 cores
i think it would be amongst the top leaders at the finish

Arm Chair Quarterbacking Regards
Steve

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