Rybka on its 52 core Cluster has become an awesome Chess entity, probably more powerful than Deep Blue. We all know that Deep Blue defeated Kasparov. Cluster Rybka would I am sure beat any GM or other engine in a match. But can it beat any other Chess entity?
The only engine to have finished ahead of Rybka in recent times in a major tournament is Hiarcs, probably the most consistent performer on the SSDF ratings list for almost 20 years.
I am organising a match in Central London. It will be played where the public can watch as well as all the usual internet streams on Playchess and ICC etc...
The match will be a Top GM + Hiarcs v Cluster Rybka. 6 games played over a week using a Fischer time control probably 90+30 or 90+60. Hiarcs will use hardware that fits in 1 box, probably a dual Nehalem system. The GM will have access to CB10 and opening books. He will not see the Rybka opening book, the only engine he can load is Hiarcs.
I have discussed the match with Vas Rajlich who has agreed to play. I have a top GM lined up and a venue in Central London. I just need to raise a few thousand Euros to make it all happen. 3 sponsors so far have promised some cash towards the event.
Would you like to contribute? If so please get in touch with me via a Private message. This is a match that will interest the media and promote Computer Chess.
The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
I think that Adams v Hydra in June 2005 was another big milestone - the moment when computers conspicuously left humans behind in their dust trail.
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That is probably true. So here we will let the GM have a little helptowforce wrote:I think that Adams v Hydra in June 2005 was another big milestone - the moment when computers conspicuously left humans behind in their dust trail.
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
This has also been done before when kramnik lost to fritz in 2006. Kramnik had help from fritz in the game opening. Fritz was restricted to a 5 piece tablebase. Kramnik could claim draw if fritz found a draw. Fritz ran on only 2 Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs. For months before and during the tournament Kramnik could train with the same fritz running on the same computer.Harvey Williamson wrote:That is probably true. So here we will let the GM have a little helptowforce wrote:I think that Adams v Hydra in June 2005 was another big milestone - the moment when computers conspicuously left humans behind in their dust trail.
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
Here the GM will not have the same engine to practice with and will not see the Rybka opening book. He will be facing a Cluster - the new Deep Blue.mschribr wrote:This has also been done before when kramnik lost to fritz in 2006. Kramnik had help from fritz in the game opening. Fritz was restricted to a 5 piece tablebase. Kramnik could claim draw if fritz found a draw. Fritz ran on only 2 Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs. For months before and during the tournament Kramnik could train with the same fritz running on the same computer.Harvey Williamson wrote:That is probably true. So here we will let the GM have a little helptowforce wrote:I think that Adams v Hydra in June 2005 was another big milestone - the moment when computers conspicuously left humans behind in their dust trail.
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
Very Interesting Match Harvey
i did sponsor the GM Benjamin v Rybka Draw Odds match and you can count on me to add to the growing list of sponsors for this match
The Early Wagering Line is ..
Hiarcs+GM 3.5-2.5 Wins Regards
Steve
i did sponsor the GM Benjamin v Rybka Draw Odds match and you can count on me to add to the growing list of sponsors for this match
The Early Wagering Line is ..
Hiarcs+GM 3.5-2.5 Wins Regards
Steve
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
Hi,
It won't be a larger match than K vs. DB. Why not make it Human vs. Machine instead of Human & Machine vs. Machine. Seems silly to me, certainly much less interesting than the K vs. DB.
Cordially,
Sean
It won't be a larger match than K vs. DB. Why not make it Human vs. Machine instead of Human & Machine vs. Machine. Seems silly to me, certainly much less interesting than the K vs. DB.
Cordially,
Sean
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
Because it has been proved that a Human alone would get crushed. But can a top human with a top program to stop him blundering succeed?Sean Evans wrote:Hi,
It won't be a larger match than K vs. DB. Why not make it Human vs. Machine instead of Human & Machine vs. Machine. Seems silly to me, certainly much less interesting than the K vs. DB.
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
Hello Harvey
Nevertheless, I am looking forward to see that!
Bye
Ingo
Very nice and intersting - I hope it will be a great success, but if Rybka run in one box, even a dual Nehalem, it is not a cluster. To my understanding a cluster has to be at least 2 seperate computers (whatever is inside) connected by a network.Harvey Williamson wrote:Rybka on its 52 core Cluster has become an awesome Chess entity, probably more powerful than Deep Blue. We all know that Deep Blue defeated Kasparov. Cluster Rybka would I am sure beat any GM or other engine in a match. But can it beat any other Chess entity?
The only engine to have finished ahead of Rybka in recent times in a major tournament is Hiarcs, probably the most consistent performer on the SSDF ratings list for almost 20 years.
I am organising a match in Central London. It will be played where the public can watch as well as all the usual internet streams on Playchess and ICC etc...
The match will be a Top GM + Hiarcs v Cluster Rybka. 6 games played over a week using a Fischer time control probably 90+30 or 90+60. Hiarcs will use hardware that fits in 1 box, probably a dual Nehalem system. The GM will have access to CB10 and opening books. He will not see the Rybka opening book, the only engine he can load is Hiarcs.
I have discussed the match with Vas Rajlich who has agreed to play. I have a top GM lined up and a venue in Central London. I just need to raise a few thousand Euros to make it all happen. 3 sponsors so far have promised some cash towards the event.
Would you like to contribute? If so please get in touch with me via a Private message. This is a match that will interest the media and promote Computer Chess.
Nevertheless, I am looking forward to see that!
Bye
Ingo
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Re: The Biggest Match since Kasparov v Deep Blue?
Hi Ingo,IWB wrote:Hello Harvey
Very nice and intersting - I hope it will be a great success, but if Rybka run in one box, even a dual Nehalem, it is not a cluster. To my understanding a cluster has to be at least 2 seperate computers (whatever is inside) connected by a network.Harvey Williamson wrote:Rybka on its 52 core Cluster has become an awesome Chess entity, probably more powerful than Deep Blue. We all know that Deep Blue defeated Kasparov. Cluster Rybka would I am sure beat any GM or other engine in a match. But can it beat any other Chess entity?
The only engine to have finished ahead of Rybka in recent times in a major tournament is Hiarcs, probably the most consistent performer on the SSDF ratings list for almost 20 years.
I am organising a match in Central London. It will be played where the public can watch as well as all the usual internet streams on Playchess and ICC etc...
The match will be a Top GM + Hiarcs v Cluster Rybka. 6 games played over a week using a Fischer time control probably 90+30 or 90+60. Hiarcs will use hardware that fits in 1 box, probably a dual Nehalem system. The GM will have access to CB10 and opening books. He will not see the Rybka opening book, the only engine he can load is Hiarcs.
I have discussed the match with Vas Rajlich who has agreed to play. I have a top GM lined up and a venue in Central London. I just need to raise a few thousand Euros to make it all happen. 3 sponsors so far have promised some cash towards the event.
Would you like to contribute? If so please get in touch with me via a Private message. This is a match that will interest the media and promote Computer Chess.
Nevertheless, I am looking forward to see that!
Bye
Ingo
Rybka will run on the biggest Cluster it can put together currently 52 cores! Hiarcs is restricted to one box.
Best Wishes,
Harvey