morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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What is your opinion about using this chess engine

immoral and illegal
18
17%
immoral but legal
16
15%
illegal but moral
1
1%
legal and moral
48
46%
dependent if you bought rybka or did not buy rybka
6
6%
not sure or not one of the options that I suggested
15
14%
 
Total votes: 104

Steve B
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Hi Steve,
Good that you didn't make a bet on that....

:wink:
I never was a lucky Gambler
Snake Eyes Regards
Steve
:o
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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sockmonkey wrote:Since no one has offered anything to date but vague insinuations of having select access to top-secret information that can't be revealed due to the alleged sensitivity of said information and what I interpret as the elite self-importance of said messengers, I can't identify anything either immoral or illegal about downloading, using or celebrating Robbolito. If it's a clone, that should a trivial matter for the legal representation of Rybka, Inc. to demonstrate and I would have expected the site shut down by now.

Anyway, this is old hash. What do you think about the proposed pay-to-play model of Rybka 4?
Now this I find definitely immoral as a cheap method to gather people's money while trying to improve Rybka 4....I didn't quite get it,is it the pc version that will be given for rent,oh my God,or the cluster one :!: :?:
Or no one knows as always....

Dr.D
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:it will be interesting to see how the results pan out here

in the other poll those Members that voted.. voted that providing links to IppoRobbo was OK by a more then 2:1 majority

i am guessing that in this poll the majority will vote that it is not Moral and\or Legal to download Robbo
stated differently..
choice 4 will lose.. or if it does win.. i doubt it will win with a 2:1 majority of the vote


of course these two polls are basically mutually exclusive,although i imagine some could argue that providing links and downloading engines are not exactly the same thing ..which is a bit of a stretch

if i am correct i think perhaps it shows that folks who basically agree with a polls premise will vote in greater numbers then those that dont agree with it

Survey Sez Regards
Steve
Hi Steve,
Good that you didn't make a bet on that....

:wink:
The majority who think this business stinks to high heaven won't vote.

These polls "mostly" reflect the votes of parasites.

It's unfortunate that we can't view who voted and for what, like the Hiarcs Forum. I think more would remain silent if that were the case.

FWIW, I voted for last as the questions were poorly worded imho.
Terry McCracken
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Hi Steve,
Good that you didn't make a bet on that....

:wink:
I never was a lucky Gambler
Snake Eyes Regards
Steve
:o
:P

Should have made a bet on one of your special dedicated units....
By now,it should be flying by DHL to Jordan :lol:
But,as I know that your heart will be broken,
I will send it back regards,
Dr.D
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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Terry McCracken wrote: These polls "mostly" reflect the votes of parasites.
...
FWIW, I voted for last ...
Hi parasite! :mrgreen:
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:it will be interesting to see how the results pan out here

in the other poll those Members that voted.. voted that providing links to IppoRobbo was OK by a more then 2:1 majority

i am guessing that in this poll the majority will vote that it is not Moral and\or Legal to download Robbo
stated differently..
choice 4 will lose.. or if it does win.. i doubt it will win with a 2:1 majority of the vote


of course these two polls are basically mutually exclusive,although i imagine some could argue that providing links and downloading engines are not exactly the same thing ..which is a bit of a stretch

if i am correct i think perhaps it shows that folks who basically agree with a polls premise will vote in greater numbers then those that dont agree with it

Survey Sez Regards
Steve
Hi Steve,
Good that you didn't make a bet on that....

:wink:
The majority who think this business stinks to high heaven won't vote.

These polls "mostly" reflect the votes of parasites.

It's unfortunate that we can't view who voted and for what, like the Hiarcs Forum. I think more would remain silent if that were the case.

FWIW, I voted for last as the questions were poorly worded imho.
I agree that the supporters of this cursed engine as I like to name it,will be the most active group of voters....
What I don't understand is why the voters from the other camp are not participating and prefer to keep silence :roll:
Dr.D
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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F.Huber wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote: These polls "mostly" reflect the votes of parasites.
...
FWIW, I voted for last ...
Hi parasite! :mrgreen:
:lol:
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

Post by Steve B »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Hi Steve,
Good that you didn't make a bet on that....

:wink:
I never was a lucky Gambler
Snake Eyes Regards
Steve
:o
:P

Should have made a bet on one of your special dedicated units....
By now,it should be flying by DHL to Jordan :lol:
But,as I know that your heart will be broken,
I will send it back regards,
Dr.D

They would have to clone me first ..before i ever bet one of those babies

One Of A Kind Regards
Steve
Terry McCracken
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

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F.Huber wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote: These polls "mostly" reflect the votes of parasites.
...
FWIW, I voted for last ...
Hi parasite! :mrgreen:
Well I oppose it. And certainly didn't download it. Where does that leave you?
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Re: morality and legality of dowloading robbolito

Post by Terry McCracken »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:it will be interesting to see how the results pan out here

in the other poll those Members that voted.. voted that providing links to IppoRobbo was OK by a more then 2:1 majority

i am guessing that in this poll the majority will vote that it is not Moral and\or Legal to download Robbo
stated differently..
choice 4 will lose.. or if it does win.. i doubt it will win with a 2:1 majority of the vote


of course these two polls are basically mutually exclusive,although i imagine some could argue that providing links and downloading engines are not exactly the same thing ..which is a bit of a stretch

if i am correct i think perhaps it shows that folks who basically agree with a polls premise will vote in greater numbers then those that dont agree with it

Survey Sez Regards
Steve
Hi Steve,
Good that you didn't make a bet on that....

:wink:
The majority who think this business stinks to high heaven won't vote.

These polls "mostly" reflect the votes of parasites.

It's unfortunate that we can't view who voted and for what, like the Hiarcs Forum. I think more would remain silent if that were the case.

FWIW, I voted for last as the questions were poorly worded imho.
I agree that the supporters of this cursed engine as I like to name it,will be the most active group of voters....
What I don't understand is why the voters from the other camp are not participating and prefer to keep silence :roll:
Dr.D
They think it's a waste of time and does little to nothing to resolve the problem and may feel contributing to it will ligitimise support of wrongful behaviour in computer chess.
Terry McCracken