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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

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QUOTE
==========================
Vasik Rajlich lied to us,simple as that....
==========================

Lying is a willful intent to deceive another.

It might also be that Vas in the depths of his heart really planned to give us R3+...but somewhere along the way an event, or a string of events caused its delay. I would call this a failure and disappointment on Vas' part, but by no means a lie.

It is another thing if Vas said he would release R3+, but in his heart and mind, he had no intention of ever releasing it in the first place. Then this would be a lie.

In fairness we can never be able to tell the what goes on in Vas' mind and heart, but it would be for everyone's benefit if we leave him the benefit of the doubt. Conflicts in the ComputerChess world might depress him and give him some "Ivanchuk-like" ideas. Now we wouldn't want that to happen.

Until R4 isn't released yet, there is still a chance we will see R3+.

And for the conspiracy theorists, technically perhaps we have already seen R3+ in the form of RXXXXXXXX
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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

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Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hello Dom,

indeed, this could be solved the problem.
On the horizont different engines are ready for take off. A question of time only.

Yesterday I saw a website with thousands of Rybka-Rybka games (different opening books only). I am thinking OK Frank, much computer chess people will see a new try with such a kind of testing.
After an "3-Years-Break" I wonder what the community do.

Unfortunately, the reality will be ... I am three years older and with more years more topics I can't understand.

The Robbo / Rybka topic is perhaps the doctoral theses by Rolf. Never saw a person which such an energy to clone topics. Rolf to do mischief, seems that this topic will give him the element of life. Outright OK for me, I have full understanding for everyone.

And for sure:
One person seems to be to 100% lucky :-)
Christmas time ...

Best
Frank

BTW:
Noboday else ... suddenly Fabian turn up.
This should be a horror vision for the Rybka-Rybka opening book freaks. All games should be replayed and all the opening books should be available in new versions.
Hi Frank,
You certainly mean the Sedat opening books tournament....yes,it's logical to test the various opening book with the strongest officialy available chess engine....
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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

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Eraserheads wrote:QUOTE
==========================
Vasik Rajlich lied to us,simple as that....
==========================

Lying is a willful intent to deceive another.

It might also be that Vas in the depths of his heart really planned to give us R3+...but somewhere along the way an event, or a string of events caused its delay. I would call this a failure and disappointment on Vas' part, but by no means a lie.

It is another thing if Vas said he would release R3+, but in his heart and mind, he had no intention of ever releasing it in the first place. Then this would be a lie.

In fairness we can never be able to tell the what goes on in Vas' mind and heart, but it would be for everyone's benefit if we leave him the benefit of the doubt. Conflicts in the ComputerChess world might depress him and give him some "Ivanchuk-like" ideas. Now we wouldn't want that to happen.

Until R4 isn't released yet, there is still a chance we will see R3+.

And for the conspiracy theorists, technically perhaps we have already seen R3+ in the form of RXXXXXXXX
I can understand perfectly your statement,but all I've asked of before is a simple elaboration from Vasik's side,nothing elase and I repeat again that I have nothing against him what so ever....it's just these 2 issues:
1.The release of the promised Rybka 3+ was canceled with no further explanation....
2.The claims that the new cursed engine is actualy his stolen source code with yet again not bothering to prove it....
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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

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DomLeste wrote:Tall Poppy Syndrome - is a pejorative term used in the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand and Canada to describe a societal phenomenon in which people of genuine merit are criticised or resented because their talents or achievements elevate them above or distinguish them from their peers. :lol:

Last 4 years of this syndrome with rybka domination, some are having major symptons ;) All we need is some competition for number 1 engine, people are bored. If the other engines were within striking distance this wouldn't be an issue :)

Peace!
Yep,we're freaks and the good thing is that we know that :lol:

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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

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Hi Wael,

think so.

Sedat do all the time a really good work. I used his Shredder GUI opening book for my tournaments and some other books from him.

Do you have a look in MyBook by Gudzovatiy?
This opening books seems to be really interesting.

BTW: Fruit / Toga family ...
After more games the different between Cyclone xTreme 19.09.2009 and Cyclone xTreme Wrath is around 20 ELO. TogaII 2.0 is on the level from Protector 1.31b. Protector 1.32 isn't better as Protector 1.31b. With longer time controls Protector seems better als Cyclone xTreme Wrath ... STOP ...

Confuzius :-)

Best
Frank

PS:
Have a lot of fun with the still running engine tournaments.
Older times come back ... :-)
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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

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Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hi Wael,

think so.

Sedat do all the time a really good work. I used his Shredder GUI opening book for my tournaments and some other books from him.

Do you have a look in MyBook by Gudzovatiy?
This opening books seems to be really interesting.

BTW: Fruit / Toga family ...
After more games the different between Cyclone xTreme 19.09.2009 and Cyclone xTreme Wrath is around 20 ELO. TogaII 2.0 is on the level from Protector 1.31b. Protector 1.32 isn't better as Protector 1.31b. With longer time controls Protector seems better als Cyclone xTreme Wrath ... STOP ...

Confuzius :-)

Best
Frank

PS:
Have a lot of fun with the still running engine tournaments.
Older times come back
... :-)
I am extremely happy that you've come back Frank and that you're having a lot of fun with the chess engines tournament :D
Frankly speaking :wink: ,I don't have time to look at these opening books,all I know is that their authors are consistantly improving and tunning them mainly by playing the Najdorf sicilian opening....
When I have time I play the chess engines and I've improved so much since the year 2002....since then I've played over 800 games at long time controls....I'll give you some examples in the next post 8-)
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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

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[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.09.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BigLion 2.23w"]
[Black "Dr.Deeb"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B53"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{B53: Sicilian: 2...d6: Lines with Qxd4} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4
Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. Nc3 Nf6 8. Bg5 e6 9. O-O-O Be7 10. Qd3 Qa5 11.
Bd2 d5 $146 (11... O-O-O 12. Kb1 Qc7 13. Nd4 a6 14. Rhe1 Nd7 15. f4 Bf6 16. Nb3
Nb6 17. g4 g6 18. g5 Bg7 19. h4 Kb8 20. h5 d5 21. e5 Nc4 22. Nd4 Rc8 23. Rh1 b5
24. Bc1 Bb7 25. Rh3 Rhe8 26. b3 {
Matsenko,A (1953)-Meng,R/Herceg Novi 2008/CBM 126 Extra/1-0 (47)}) (11... Qc7
12. Nd4 (12. Bf4 O-O 13. Bxd6 Bxd6 14. Qxd6 Qxd6 15. Rxd6 Bxe4 16. Nxe4 Nxe4
17. Rd4 f5 18. Rf1 Rad8 19. Rb4 b6 20. Nd4 a5 21. Ra4 Rd6 22. f3 Nc5 23. Rc4 e5
24. Nb3 Ne6 25. Rd1 Rfd8 26. Rxd6 Rxd6 {
Pena,A (2248)-Guerrero,J (2144)/Riobamba 2007/CBM 120 ext/1/2-1/2 (39)}) (12.
Rhe1 a6 13. Bg5 O-O 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Qxd6 Qa5 16. Qd2 Rad8 17. Qe3 Bxc3 18.
Qxc3 Rxd1+ 19. Kxd1 Rd8+ 20. Kc1 Qxa2 21. b3 Bxe4 22. Nd2 Qa3+ 23. Kb1 Bc6 24.
g3 h6 25. h4 Qd6 26. Nc4 Qc5 {
Sanduleac,V (2473)-Murariu,A (2461)/Bucharest 2006/CBM 111 ext/1/2-1/2 (44)})
12... a6 13. f4 b5 14. e5 dxe5 15. fxe5 Nd7 16. Nxc6 Qxc6 17. Qg3 g6 18. Bg5
Bxg5+ 19. Qxg5 b4 20. Ne2 Rc8 21. Nd4 Qc4 22. Kb1 O-O 23. h4 f6 24. exf6 e5 25.
Nf3 Nxf6 26. Rc1 {
Kasimdzhanov,R (2595)-Topalov,V (2700)/Wijk aan Zee 1999/CBM 069/1/2-1/2}) 12.
exd5 Nxd5 13. a3 {Prevents intrusion on b4} O-O {White has an active position}
14. Nd4 Qb6 15. Nxc6 bxc6 ({Inferior is} 15... Qxc6 16. Nxd5 exd5 17. Rhe1 $14)
16. Nxd5 cxd5 17. Be3 {White threatens to win material: Be3xb6} Qc7 18. h4 Rfc8
19. h5 h6 20. g3 (20. Rh3 $5 $17) 20... Bf6 $19 21. b4 $2 (21. Kb1 $142 $19)
21... a5 22. Bc5 axb4 23. axb4 Be7 24. Bxe7 (24. Kd2 {is the last straw} Bxc5
25. bxc5 Qxc5 26. Ke1 $19) 24... Qxe7 25. Rh4 Ra2 26. Rd2 (26. Kd2 {
no good, but what else?} Qf6 27. Rc1 Qxf2+ 28. Kd1 Qg1+ 29. Kd2 Qg2+ 30. Kd1
$19) 26... Ra1+ 27. Kb2 Qf6+ (27... Qa7 $142 {and Black can already relax} 28.
Qb3 Ra8 $19) 28. Qd4 (28. Rd4 {otherwise it's curtains at once} Rca8 29. Qb3
$19) 28... e5 29. Qxd5 (29. Qc3 {doesn't improve anything} Rxc3 30. Kxc3 e4+
31. Rd4 Ra3+ 32. Kb2 Ra8 33. Rhxe4 dxe4 34. Kc3 Rc8+ 35. Kb3 Qxd4 36. Ka4 Qc4
37. Ka3 Ra8+ 38. Kb2 Qxb4+ 39. Kc1 Ra1#) 29... e4+ 30. Rd4 (30. Qd4 {
does not help much} Qa6 31. Qd8+ Kh7 32. Qg8+ Kxg8 33. Rd8+ Kh7 34. Rh8+ Kxh8
35. c4 Qa2+ 36. Kc3 Rxc4#) 30... Qa6 31. Qd8+ Rxd8 32. Rxd8+ Kh7 (32... Kh7 33.
Kc3 Qc6+ 34. Kb2 Qf6+ 35. Kb3 Rb1+ 36. Kc4 Qc6+ 37. Kd4 Rxb4+ 38. c4 Rxc4+ 39.
Ke3 Qb6+ 40. Ke2 Qxd8 41. Rxe4 Rxe4+ 42. Kf1 Qd1+ 43. Kg2 Ra4 44. Kh2 Qd5 45.
Kg1 Ra1+ 46. Kh2 Rh1#) 0-1

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.09.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dr.Deeb"]
[Black "BigLion 2.23w"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B42"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "96"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{B42: Sicilian: Kan Variation: 5 Bd3} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6
5. Bd3 Nf6 6. O-O d6 7. c4 Bd7 8. Nc3 Nc6 9. Nxc6 Bxc6 10. Qe2 Be7 11. Rd1 Qa5
(11... Nd7 12. Bf4 O-O 13. Rac1 Ne5 14. Bb1 Qb8 15. a4 Rc8 16. Bg3 Be8 17. Ba2
Qa7 18. Kh1 Qc5 19. f4 Nxc4 20. b3 Ne3 21. Rd3 d5 22. b4 Qxb4 23. Qxe3 dxe4 24.
Rdd1 Qa3 25. f5 exf5 26. Be5 {
Lastin,A (2627)-Landa,K (2610)/Tomsk 2001/CBM 082 ext/1-0 (78)}) 12. Bd2 (12.
Bf4 O-O 13. h3 Rfd8 14. a3 Qh5 15. Qxh5 Nxh5 16. Be3 Bf6 17. Rac1 Be5 18. Be2
Nf4 19. Bf1 Ng6 20. Bb6 Rd7 21. Re1 Ne7 22. f3 Bg3 23. Red1 d5 24. cxd5 exd5
25. exd5 Nxd5 26. Nxd5 Rxd5 {
Smikovski,I (2497)-Landa,K (2610)/Tomsk 2001/CBM 082 ext/1/2-1/2}) 12... Qb6
$146 (12... Qh5 13. f3 O-O 14. Be3 Nd7 15. Rac1 Ne5 16. f4 Qxe2 17. Bxe2 Ng6
18. g3 Rfc8 19. a3 a5 20. Kf2 a4 21. Bf3 Nf8 22. h4 Ra5 23. Na2 f5 24. Bd2 Rc5
25. Bb4 fxe4 26. Bxc5 dxc5 27. Bh1 {
Palac,M (2545)-Delchev,A (2545)/Pula 1998/EXT 2000/1-0 (41)}) 13. a4 O-O (13...
Qxb2 $4 {a poisoned pawn} 14. Rdb1 Qxb1+ 15. Rxb1 $18) 14. a5 {
White threatens to win material: a5xb6} Qc7 (14... Qxb2 $4 {
taking the pawn will bring Black grief} 15. Rdb1 Qxa1 16. Rxa1 $18) 15. b4 Bd7
16. Bf4 Qc8 17. h3 Re8 18. Qf3 Qc7 19. Qg3 {Black has a cramped position} (19.
Rac1 $142 $5 $16) 19... Nh5 $11 {Black threatens to win material: Nh5xg3} 20.
Qf3 Nxf4 21. Qxf4 {Black has the pair of bishops} Bf6 {
Black threatens to win material: Bf6xc3} 22. Rac1 b6 23. axb6 Qxb6 24. Qd2 Qxb4
25. Nd5 Qxd2 26. Nxf6+ (26. Rxd2 $4 {a fat bite, but...} exd5 27. Rb1 dxe4 $19)
26... gxf6 27. Rxd2 Red8 28. Rb1 (28. Ra1 Kf8 $15) 28... Rac8 (28... a5 29. Rb6
Be8 30. f4 $17) 29. Rb6 Rc6 30. Rxc6 Bxc6 31. Rb2 Rd7 32. Rb6 {
White threatens to win material: Rb6xc6} Bb7 33. f3 Kf8 34. c5 {
The isolani on a6 becomes a target} dxc5 35. Bxa6 Bxa6 36. Rxa6 {
A rook endgame occured} Rc7 37. Kf2 Kg7 38. Ra2 Kg6 39. Rc2 f5 40. Ke3 fxe4 41.
Kxe4 Kg5 42. g3 Kf6 43. Rc3 Ke7 44. Kd3 Kd6 45. Ra3 Kd5 46. Ra8 Rd7 47. Kc3 e5
48. g4 Rd6 1/2-1/2

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.11.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ChessAlex 2.0 r4"]
[Black "Dr.Deeb"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A30"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{A30: Symmetrical English: Double Fianchetto and Hedgehog} 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 c5 4. g3 b6 5. Bg2 Bb7 6. O-O Be7 7. d4 cxd4 8. Qxd4 d6 9. Rd1 a6 10.
Bg5 Nbd7 11. Qd2 O-O 12. Bf4 Ne8 13. e4 Qc7 14. Rac1 Rd8 15. Qe2 {
White prepares the advance e5} Nef6 16. e5 Bxf3 17. exd6 Bxd6 18. Bxd6 Bxe2 19.
Bxc7 Bxd1 $146 (19... Rc8 20. Nxe2 Rxc7 21. Rd6 Rfc8 22. b3 Ne8 23. Rd2 Kf8 24.
Rcd1 Ke7 25. Nd4 Nb8 26. f4 g6 27. Kf2 Nf6 28. h3 Rd7 29. Nc2 Rxd2+ 30. Rxd2
Ne8 31. Nd4 Nd6 32. g4 Rc5 33. h4 h5 34. g5 {
Janjgava,L (2479)-Melkumyan,H (2360)/Sevan 2006/CBM 113 ext/1/2-1/2 (58)}) 20.
Bxd8 ({Less advisable is} 20. Rxd1 Rc8 21. Bd6 Rxc4 $15) 20... Rxd8 21. Rxd1
Kf8 22. b3 Ke7 23. f4 Nc5 24. Rxd8 Kxd8 {A minor pieces endgame occured} 25.
Bf3 Ne8 26. b4 {White threatens to win material: b4xc5} Nd7 (26... Nd3 27. b5
Nc5 28. f5 $11) 27. Na4 Kc7 28. Kf2 Nd6 29. c5 bxc5 30. bxc5 {
White has a new passed pawn: c5.} Nb5 31. Ke3 Nf6 (31... g6 32. Bg2 $11) 32.
Nb6 $14 {The white knight on an outpost} h6 33. a4 Na7 34. Be2 a5 (34... Kc6
35. Kd4 (35. Bxa6 $143 Kxc5 36. Na8 Nd5+ 37. Kd2 Kc6 $17) 35... Kb7 36. Bf3+
Nc6+ 37. Kd3 $14) 35. Bf3 $16 Nd7 36. Na8+ (36. Nxd7 Kxd7 37. Kd3 Nc6 $16)
36... Kd8 37. Kd4 Nc8 38. c6 (38. Kc4 $5 g5 39. Kb5 gxf4 40. gxf4 Na7+ 41. Kxa5
Nxc5 42. Kb6 Nxa4+ 43. Kxa7 $16) 38... Ndb6 $11 39. Nxb6 Nxb6 40. Kc5 Nxa4+ 41.
Kb5 Nc3+ 42. Kxa5 Kc7 43. Kb4 {White threatens to win material: Kb4xc3} Nb1 44.
Kc5 Nd2 {Black threatens to win material: Nd2xf3} 45. Bd1 (45. Bg2 Nb3+ 46. Kc4
Na5+ 47. Kb5 Nb3 $11) 45... Ne4+ (45... Nf1 46. g4 $15) 46. Kd4 $11 {
White threatens to win material: Kd4xe4} Nf6 47. Bf3 Kd6 48. h4 1/2-1/2

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.11.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dr.Deeb"]
[Black "ChessAlex 2.0 r4"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C45"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "70"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{C45: Scotch Game} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nxc6 bxc6 6.
e5 Qe7 7. Qe2 Nd5 8. c4 Ba6 9. b3 O-O-O 10. g3 g5 11. Bb2 Bg7 12. Bg2 Rde8 13.
O-O Bxe5 14. Qxe5 Qxe5 15. Bxe5 Rxe5 16. cxd5 Bxf1 17. Kxf1 cxd5 18. Nc3 c6 19.
Rc1 Kd8 20. Ne2 (20. Bf3 h5 21. Be2 f5 22. Rd1 g4 23. Rd4 h4 24. Kg2 Re7 25.
Bd3 hxg3 26. hxg3 Rh5 27. Rf4 Re5 28. Nd1 c5 29. Ne3 Rg5 30. Nxf5 c4 31. bxc4
dxc4 32. Rxc4 Rd5 33. Bc2 Rd2 34. Ne3 d5 {
Thorhallsson,T (2495)-Giorgadze,G (2610)/Elista 1998/CBM 066 ext/1-0 (40)}) (
20. Na4 h5 21. Re1 f6 22. Nc5 Kc7 23. Nd3 Rxe1+ 24. Kxe1 h4 25. g4 Kd6 26. b4
a5 27. a3 axb4 28. axb4 Ra8 29. Kd2 Ra1 30. h3 Kc7 31. Kc3 Kb6 32. Bf3 d6 33.
Kb2 Rg1 34. Kc2 Kb5 {
Manca,F (2405)-L'Ami,E (2577)/Heraklio 2007/CBM 121/0-1 (58)}) 20... Rhe8 $146
(20... g4 21. b4 Rhe8 22. Nd4 a6 23. a4 Ke7 24. b5 axb5 25. axb5 cxb5 26. Nxb5
Rb8 {1/2-1/2 Broekmeulen,J-Gharamian,T (2332)/Bethune 2003/CBM 098 ext}) 21.
Nd4 f6 22. b4 a6 {Controls b5} 23. a4 {White plans b5} Ke7 24. h4 g4 25. b5
axb5 26. axb5 cxb5 27. Nxb5 Ra8 28. Rd1 {
White threatens to win material: Rd1xd5} Ra5 {
Black threatens to win material: Ra5xb5} 29. Nc3 {Increasing the pressure on
the isolated pawn on d5. White threatens to win material: Nc3xd5} Kd6 30. Ne2
Rc5 31. Nf4 Ra5 32. Kg1 Rb5 33. Kf1 (33. Ra1 Ke7 $14) 33... Ra5 $11 34. Kg1 Rb5
{Twofold repetition} 35. Kf1 (35. Ra1 $5 $14) 35... Ra5 $11 1/2-1/2

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.11.22"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Ifrit j2_2 q8"]
[Black "Dr.Deeb"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B22"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "93"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{B22: Sicilian: 2 c3} 1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. Bc4
Nb6 7. Bb3 d5 8. exd6 Qxd6 9. O-O Be6 10. Bxe6 Qxe6 11. Nxd4 Nxd4 12. Qxd4 Rd8
13. Qh4 Qe2 14. Nd2 h5 15. a4 Qg4 16. Qxg4 hxg4 17. a5 Nd7 (17... Nd5 18. Nc4
e6 19. Rd1 Bc5 20. Rd3 f6 21. b4 Be7 22. Ne3 Nxe3 23. Rxd8+ Bxd8 24. Bxe3 Bc7
25. g3 a6 26. c4 Kd7 27. Rd1+ Kc8 28. Rd4 f5 29. Bg5 Be5 30. Rd3 Bf6 31. Bxf6
gxf6 32. Rd6 {Felczer,K (2239)-Busche,K (2155)/Senden 2006/CBM 114 ext/1-0 (53)
}) 18. Ra4 Ne5 $146 (18... f5 19. f3 gxf3 20. Nxf3 e5 21. Be3 a6 22. Ng5 g6 23.
Rc4 Bd6 24. Rd1 Ke7 25. Nf7 Kxf7 26. Rxd6 f4 27. Ba7 Ke7 28. Rxg6 Nf6 29. Rc7+
Ke6 30. Rxb7 Kf5 31. Rgg7 Rd1+ 32. Kf2 Rxh2 33. Ke2 {
Perez Fungueiro,M (2275)-Ivanov,J (2460)/Vilagarcia 2000/EXT 2006/0-1 (40)})
19. Ne4 e6 20. Be3 {White threatens to win material: Be3xa7} Nc6 (20... a6 21.
Nc5 $15) 21. Ng3 (21. Ng5 $142 $5 $14 {should be considered}) 21... f5 $15 22.
Re1 Kf7 23. b4 a6 24. Rb1 Be7 25. b5 axb5 26. Rxb5 Rd7 27. Ra2 (27. a6 bxa6 28.
Rxa6 Rc8 $15) 27... Bf6 28. c4 Ke7 (28... Ra8 $5 $17) 29. a6 bxa6 30. Rxa6 Nd4
{Black threatens to win material: Nd4xb5} 31. Rbb6 Rc8 (31... Kf7 32. Bxd4 Rxd4
33. Rxe6 Rd1+ 34. Nf1 $19) 32. h3 Kf7 33. Bxd4 Rxd4 34. Rxe6 Rc5 35. Rec6 Rxc6
36. Rxc6 Rd1+ 37. Kh2 Be5 38. Rc5 {White threatens to win material: Rc5xe5} Ke6
39. hxg4 fxg4 40. Rb5 Rc1 41. Rb6+ Kd7 42. Rb4 Rc2 {
Black threatens to win material: Rc2xf2} 43. Rb5 {
White threatens to win material: Rb5xe5} Ke6 44. Rb6+ Kd7 45. Rb5 Ke6 46. Rb6+
{Twofold repetition} Kd7 47. Rb5 1/2-1/2

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.11.25"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dr.Deeb"]
[Black "Ifrit j2_2 q8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "112"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{B90: Sicilian Najdorf: Unusual White 6th moves, 6 Be3 Ng4 and 6 Be3 e5} 1. e4
c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Nbd7
9. g4 Nb6 10. g5 Nh5 11. Qd2 Be7 12. O-O-O Rc8 13. Rg1 O-O 14. Kb1 g6 15. Qf2 {
White has an active position} Nd7 $146 (15... Nc4 16. Bxc4 Bxc4 (16... Rxc4 17.
Nd5 Bxd5 18. Rxd5 Qd7 19. Nd2 Rc6 20. f4 exf4 21. Bxf4 Qe6 22. Bg3 f6 23. gxf6
Nxf6 24. Qd4 Rfc8 25. Rc1 Nd7 26. Qe3 Bf6 27. Nb3 Nb6 28. Qd3 Nc4 29. c3 Qe7
30. Rc2 b5 31. Nd4 {
Mihok,O (2351)-Nguyen Huynh Minh,H (2398)/Budapest 2008/CBM 122 Extra/0-1 (62)}
) 17. Na4 (17. Qd2 Qc7 18. Rg2 f5 (18... Kh8 19. Na4 Be6 20. Nb6 Rcd8 21. Qf2
Rb8 22. h4 f6 23. Rh2 fxg5 24. hxg5 Rf7 25. Nd2 Rbf8 26. c4 Qc6 27. Nd5 Bd8 28.
Rc1 b5 29. Qe2 Qb7 30. Qd3 Bxd5 31. cxd5 Ba5 32. Qa3 Bxd2 33. Bxd2 {
Wedberg,T (2485)-Gudmundsson,K (2210)/Reykjavik 1990/CBM 018 ext/1-0 (41)}) 19.
Nd5 Bxd5 20. Qxd5+ Kh8 21. c3 Qc6 22. Na5 Qxd5 23. Rxd5 b5 {
1/2-1/2 Leko,P (2736)-Anand,V (2753)/Monte Carlo 2003/CBM 093 ext}) 17... Be6
18. Nb6 Rc7 19. Na5 (19. Nd5 Bxd5 20. Rxd5 Qe8 21. f4 exf4 22. Bxf4 Nxf4 23.
Qxf4 f6 24. gxf6 Bxf6 25. Qxd6 Qxe4 26. Nc5 Qb4 27. c3 Bxc3 28. Qe6+ Kh8 29.
Nd3 Qc4 30. Rc1 Qc6 31. Qxc6 Rxc6 32. Rxc3 Rxc3 33. bxc3 Rf1+ {
Baramidze,D (2542)-Sprenger,J (2505)/Germany 2005/CBM 110/[Ftacnik]/1-0 (42)})
19... f6 20. gxf6 Rxf6 21. Qd2 Rxf3 22. Nd5 Rd7 23. Nb6 Rc7 24. Nd5 Rd7 25. Nb6
{1/2-1/2 Van Haastert,E (2398)-Spoelman,W (2362)/Netherlands 2005/EXT 2007}) (
15... Nc4 $5 {must definitely be considered} 16. Bxc4 Rxc4 $14) 16. Nd5 $16 Ng7
17. Qd2 Bxd5 18. Qxd5 Qc7 19. c3 (19. Bh3 Qxc2+ 20. Ka1 Qc7 $16) 19... Nb6 20.
Qd3 (20. Qd2 Nc4 21. Bxc4 Qxc4 $14) 20... Rfe8 (20... Ne6 21. Rg4 $14) 21. h4
Nc4 22. Bh3 {White threatens to win material: Bh3xc8} (22. Qxc4 Qxc4 23. Bxc4
Rxc4 $16) 22... Rcd8 23. Bg4 a5 24. Bc1 a4 {
Black threatens to win material: a4xb3} 25. Na1 Bf8 (25... Ne6 $142 $5 $11 {
should be examined more closely}) 26. Nc2 $16 Ne6 27. Bxe6 Rxe6 (27... fxe6 28.
h5 $14) 28. Ne3 (28. h5 Nb6 29. Nb4 d5 30. Nxd5 Nxd5 31. exd5 Red6 32. hxg6
hxg6 $16) 28... Nxe3 $14 29. Bxe3 Bg7 (29... a3 30. Rg2 $14) 30. Qb5 Ra8 31.
Qb6 (31. a3 f6 $16) 31... Qd7 (31... Qxb6 32. Bxb6 d5 33. Bf2 dxe4 34. fxe4 $14
) 32. a3 Ra6 (32... Qc6 33. Rd5 $16) 33. Qb4 $16 Qc7 34. Rd5 Re7 35. Rgd1 Rd7
36. Bf2 (36. Qb5 f6 $16) 36... f5 (36... Qc6 37. c4 $16) 37. R1d3 (37. exf5
$142 $5 gxf5 38. Qb5 $18) 37... fxe4 $14 38. fxe4 Bf8 39. Rd2 (39. Rf3 Rf7 40.
Rf6 Rxf6 41. gxf6 Qf7 $14) 39... Rf7 40. Qb5 Ra8 41. Qd3 Rc8 42. Be3 (42. Rb5
Qc4 43. Kc2 Rf4 $14) 42... Rf3 43. Qe2 {White threatens to win material: Qe2xf3
} Qf7 44. Rd1 Rc6 45. Re1 Ra6 (45... Rh3 46. Qd1 $14) 46. Red1 (46. Qd1 $5 $16)
46... Rh3 {Black threatens to win material: Rh3xh4} (46... Rc6 47. Rg1 $14) 47.
Qf2 (47. Rb5 Ra8 $14) 47... Qe6 (47... Rc6 $5 $11 {should not be overlooked})
48. Rb5 {White threatens to win material: Rb5xb7} Qg4 $4 (48... Qd7 $142 {
the rescuing straw} 49. Rb4 Ra8 $14) 49. Rf1 $18 Qxe4+ 50. Ka1 Qf5 51. Qg2 Qc8
(51... Qe6 {desperation} 52. Qxb7 e4 53. Qxa6 Rf3 $18) 52. Qd5+ Kh8 53. Rxb7
Ra8 (53... Rxe3 $4 {is refuted by the following interesting mate} 54. Qf7 Re1+
55. Rxe1 Be7 56. Qxe7 Qg8 57. Qf6+ Qg7 58. Qxg7#) 54. Bc5 $3 {Mate attack} Rd3
(54... Qxc5 55. Qf7 {Mate attack}) (54... dxc5 55. Qxe5+ Bg7 (55... Kg8 56.
Qd5+ Qe6 (56... Kh8 57. Rff7 {Combination}) 57. Qxe6+ {Mate attack Decoy}) 56.
Qxg7# {Mate attack}) (54... -- $140 55. Bxd6 {NOTEXT}) 55. Qf7 (55. Qxd3 $6 {
is a useless try} Qxb7 56. Bxd6 Bg7 $18) 55... Qxb7 56. Qxb7 Re8 (56... Re8 57.
h5 $1 {sealing the opponent's fate} Rd1+ 58. Rxd1 Re7 59. Qf3 Re8 60. Qf7 gxh5
61. Bxd6 Bxd6 62. Qxe8+ Kg7 63. Rxd6 h4 64. Rd7#) (56... Rd8 {
hardly improves anything} 57. Bb6 Re8 58. Qf7 Rd1+ 59. Rxd1 Ra8 60. Bd8 Rxd8
61. Qf6+ Kg8 62. Qxd8 h6 63. Rf1 Kh7 64. Qxf8 hxg5 65. Rf7#) 1-0

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Taktix 2.23w"]
[Black "Dr.Deeb"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B30"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "93"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{B30: Sicilian: 2...Nc6 3 Bb5, lines without ...g6} 1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 c5 3. Nc3
Nc6 4. Bb5 Nge7 5. O-O a6 6. Bxc6 Nxc6 7. d4 cxd4 8. Nxd4 Qc7 9. Re1 Bd6 10.
Kh1 Nxd4 11. Qxd4 O-O $146 {Black's piece can't move: c8} (11... Be5 12. Qd3 (
12. Qe3 O-O 13. Bd2 (13. f4 Bxc3 14. bxc3 d5 15. exd5 Rd8 16. Ba3 Rxd5 17. Rad1
Rxd1 18. Rxd1 Bd7 19. Bd6 Qc4 20. Be5 Be8 21. Qg3 f6 22. Bxf6 Bg6 23. Be5 Qe2
24. Qe1 Qxe1+ 25. Rxe1 Bxc2 26. Bd4 Kf7 27. Re5 Rd8 {
Papa,S (2349)-Raetsky,A (2447)/Switzerland 2003/EXT 2004/1/2-1/2}) 13... b5 14.
f4 Bxc3 15. Bxc3 f6 16. Rad1 Bb7 17. Bb4 Rf7 18. c3 f5 {
1/2-1/2 Shtyrenkov,V (2424)-Kiss,P (2397)/Karvina 2006/EXT 2008}) (12. Qb4 b5
13. Nd5 exd5 14. exd5 d6 15. f4 O-O 16. fxe5 dxe5 17. Qe4 Bb7 18. Qxe5 Qxc2 19.
Bf4 Rad8 20. Rac1 Qd3 {
1/2-1/2 Gozzoli,Y (2431)-Flumbort,A (2439)/Pula 2003/CBM 094 ext}) 12... O-O
13. Ne2 (13. Bg5 b5 14. Rad1 b4 15. Ne2 Bb7 16. Be7 Rfc8 17. Bxb4 Qxc2 18. Bc3
Qxd3 19. Rxd3 Bxe4 20. Rxd7 {
1/2-1/2 Smirin,I (2702)-Eljanov,P (2540)/Moscow 2002/CBM 088}) 13... d5 14.
exd5 exd5 15. f4 Bf6 16. c3 Qc4 17. Qxc4 dxc4 18. Be3 Re8 19. Bd4 Bg4 20. Bxf6
Bxe2 {1/2-1/2 Tringov,G (2495)-Zecevic,D (2200)/Bar 1977/EXT 1999}) 12. Be3 b5
13. Rad1 Be5 14. Qb6 Rd8 {Black has a cramped position} (14... Qxb6 15. Bxb6 f5
16. exf5 Rxf5 17. Kg1 $11) 15. Bc5 Qxb6 16. Bxb6 Re8 17. Bc5 Bxc3 18. bxc3 {
Opposite coloured bishops appeared} e5 {Black has a new backward pawn: d7} 19.
Rd5 {Here comes the goal-getter} f6 20. Kg1 Re6 21. a3 Kf7 22. Re2 a5 23. Re3
Raa6 24. Red3 Rec6 25. f3 d6 {Black threatens to win material: d6xc5} 26. Be3 (
{Instead of} 26. Bxd6 Be6 27. Bxe5 fxe5 28. Rxe5 b4 29. cxb4 axb4 30. axb4 Ra1+
31. Kf2 Rxc2+ 32. Kg3 Rg1 $19) 26... f5 27. Rxb5 fxe4 28. fxe4 Rc4 29. Rb6 Rxb6
30. Bxb6 a4 31. Rxd6 Rxc3 {White has a new passed pawn: c2} 32. Bf2 (32. Rd5
Kf6 $11) 32... Rxa3 $15 33. Bg3 {White threatens to win material: Bg3xe5} Rc3 {
Black threatens to win material: Rc3xc2} 34. Bxe5 Rxc2 {
White has a new passed pawn: e4} 35. Rd4 (35. Rd3 Bb7 36. Rd7+ Ke6 37. Rxb7
Kxe5 $15) 35... a3 $17 36. Ra4 Bb7 (36... a2 $5 {is worth consideration} 37.
Ra7+ Ke6 38. Bxg7 Bd7 $17) 37. Rxa3 $11 Bxe4 38. Rg3 g6 39. Rg4 Bd5 40. Bf4 Re2
41. Rg5 {White threatens to win material: Rg5xd5} Bc6 42. h4 Rc2 43. g3 Rg2+
44. Kf1 Rc2 45. Kg1 Rg2+ 46. Kf1 {Twofold repetition} Rc2 47. Kg1 1/2-1/2

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dr.Deeb"]
[Black "Taktix 2.23w"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B47"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "54"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{B47: Sicilian: Taimanov: 5 Nc3 Qc7 6 f4, 6 g3 and 6 Be2} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3.
d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 Qc7 7. O-O b5 8. Nxc6 Qxc6 9. Bf3 Bb7 10.
Bf4 d6 11. a4 $146 (11. Qe2 Ne7 12. Rfd1 e5 13. Bg3 Qc7 14. Bg4 b4 15. Nd5 Bxd5
16. exd5 f5 17. Bh5+ Ng6 18. Qd3 e4 19. Qd4 Qc5 20. Qxc5 dxc5 21. d6 Kd7 22.
Rd5 f4 23. Bxg6 hxg6 24. Bxf4 Rh5 25. Rd2 Rf5 {
Idrizaj,A-Erwes,T (2120)/Hessen 2000/EXT 2002/1/2-1/2 (52)}) (11. Re1 e5 12. a4
(12. Bd2 Nf6 13. a4 bxa4 14. Rxa4 Be7 15. Bg5 O-O 16. Be2 Nxe4 17. Nxe4 Qxa4
18. Bxe7 Qxe4 19. Bf3 Qb4 20. Bxb7 Qxb7 21. Bxf8 Rxf8 22. Qxd6 Qxb2 23. Qxa6 {
1/2-1/2 Geller,E-Taimanov,M/Palma de Mallorca 1970/IZT/[ChessBase]}) 12... b4
13. Nd5 exf4 14. c3 b3 15. e5 O-O-O 16. Qxb3 Kb8 17. Nb4 Qd7 18. Bxb7 Kxb7 19.
Nd5+ Ka8 20. Nb6+ Ka7 21. Nxd7 Rxd7 22. Rad1 {
1-0 Velimirovic,D (2510)-Vasiukov,E (2560)/Tbilisi 1973/MCD}) (11. a3 Rd8 12.
Qe2 Ne7 13. Bg3 Ng6 14. Bh5 Be7 15. Rad1 {
1/2-1/2 Parma,B-Minic,D/Pula 1971/EXT 2009}) 11... b4 12. Na2 Qxa4 13. Bxd6 Rd8
14. Nc3 Qd7 15. Bxf8 Kxf8 16. Na2 a5 17. Qxd7 Rxd7 18. Nc1 Rc7 (18... Nf6 19.
Rxa5 Nxe4 20. Nd3 $16) 19. Rxa5 Rxc2 20. Rd1 Rxb2 (20... g6 $142 $5 $16) 21.
Ra7 Bc6 22. Rd8+ Be8 23. Raa8 Nf6 24. e5 Rb1 25. Rdc8 (25. exf6 {
is the less attractive alternative} Rxc1+ 26. Rd1 Rxd1+ 27. Bxd1 gxf6 $15)
25... Ke7 26. exf6+ Kxf6 27. Rc5 b3 (27... b3 28. Be4 Bc6 29. Bxb1 Bxa8 30.
Nxb3 Bd5 $18) 1-0

[Event "Zzzz_0_1"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.12.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Sunsetter C9d q8"]
[Black "Dr.Deeb"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B22"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "96"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{B22: Sicilian: 2 c3} 1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. d4 cxd4 6.
cxd4 d6 7. Bc4 Nb6 8. Bb5 dxe5 9. Nxe5 Bd7 10. Nxd7 Qxd7 {
Attacking the isolated pawn on d4} 11. Nc3 e6 12. O-O Be7 13. Qg4 O-O 14. Bxc6
bxc6 15. Bh6 Bf6 16. Rfd1 Rfd8 17. Ne4 Qe7 18. Rac1 Rac8 (18... Kh8 19. Bg5
Bxg5 20. Qxg5 Qb4 21. Qh5 f6 22. Qc5 Qa4 23. Nc3 Qc4 24. Qxc4 Nxc4 25. Na4 Nb6
26. Nc5 Rd6 27. Nb7 Rd7 28. Na5 h6 29. Kf1 Rad8 30. Re1 Nd5 31. Nxc6 Rc8 32.
Na5 Rxc1 33. Rxc1 {
Korotylev,A (2565)-Smirnov,P (2601)/Tomsk 2004/CBM 102/[Rogozenko]/1-0 (78)})
19. Rc3 (19. h4 Rd5 20. Bg5 Nd7 21. Rc3 Bxg5 22. hxg5 Rd8 23. Rd2 e5 24. Rcd3
exd4 25. Rxd4 f5 26. gxf6 Nxf6 27. Nxf6+ Qxf6 28. Rxd5 cxd5 29. Qd4 Qxd4 30.
Rxd4 Kf7 31. Ra4 Rd7 32. Kf1 Ke6 33. Ke2 Ke5 {
Egin,V (2444)-Gubaydulin,T (2213)/Tashkent 2008/CBM 123 Extra/1/2-1/2 (39)})
19... Bxd4 $146 {Sacrifices material.} (19... Kh8 20. Rf3 (20. Bg5 Bxg5 21.
Nxg5 h6 22. Nf3 Nd5 23. Rc4 f5 24. Qh4 Qxh4 25. Nxh4 Nb6 26. Rcc1 c5 27. Ng6+
Kh7 28. Nf4 cxd4 29. Nxe6 Rxc1 30. Rxc1 Rd6 31. Nc5 d3 32. Rd1 d2 33. Kf1 Nc4
34. Na4 Ne5 {Kosintseva,T (2427)-Helm,L (2235)/Goa 2002/CBM 091 ext/1-0 (59)})
20... Bxd4 21. Rxd4 f5 22. Qxg7+ Qxg7 23. Bxg7+ Kxg7 24. Rg3+ Kf8 25. Nc5 Kf7
26. Rxd8 Rxd8 27. Rd3 Rd5 28. Rxd5 cxd5 29. f4 Ke7 30. Kf2 Kd6 31. Nd3 d4 {
1/2-1/2 Kosteniuk,A (2516)-Tregubov,P (2607)/Kazan 2005/CBM 109 (31)}) 20. Rxd4
{Mate attack} f5 (20... Rxd4 21. Qxg7# {Mate attack}) (20... -- $140 21. Qxg7#
{Mate threat}) 21. Qxg7+ Qxg7 22. Bxg7 Kxg7 23. Nd6 c5 {
Black threatens to win material: c5xd4} 24. Rdd3 Rb8 25. Rxc5 Rd7 26. Rc6 Rbd8
27. f3 (27. Rd4 $142 $5 $11 {is interesting}) 27... Kf8 $17 28. Rd4 Ke7 29. Rh4
(29. Nxf5+ $5 exf5 30. Rxd7+ Rxd7 31. Rh6 $17) 29... Rxd6 $19 30. Rxh7+ Kf6 31.
Rxd6 Rxd6 32. Rxa7 (32. h4 a6 $19) 32... Rd1+ 33. Kf2 Rd2+ 34. Kg1 Rxb2 (34...
Nc4 35. b3 Ne3 36. g4 $19) 35. g3 $2 (35. Rb7 $142 $17) 35... Nc4 $19 36. h4
Ne3 37. Ra3 Re2 38. Kh1 (38. h5 Kg5 39. h6 Kxh6 $19) 38... Nd5 (38... f4 $5 {
seems even better} 39. gxf4 Kf5 40. Ra4 $19) 39. Kg1 Re3 $4 {
weakening the position} (39... Rc2 $142 $19 {a pity that Black didn't try this}
) 40. Rxe3 $15 Nxe3 41. a4 Nc4 42. Kg2 Kg7 43. g4 Kg6 (43... f4 44. Kf2 $15)
44. Kh3 (44. Kg3 Kf6 $11) 44... e5 (44... f4 45. Kg2 $15) 45. gxf5+ $11 Kxf5
46. h5 Kg5 47. f4+ Kxh5 48. fxe5 Nxe5 1/2-1/2
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

In the last game I posted I have a move that I am proud of,I've tricked the engine by giving it a pawn and then to pin his knight and go for a win....

[D]2rr4/p5kp/1n1Np3/2p2p2/8/2RR4/PP3PPP/6K1 b - - 1 24

24....Rb8!
after this move you can see the engine going down the way of darkness....

Now the stupid move in the endgame that cost me the win....

[D]8/8/4pk2/3n1p2/7P/R4PP1/P3r3/6K1 b - - 6 39

39....Re3??

Here's what Deep Fritz 11 told me after the end of the game:

39. Kg1 Re3 $4 {
weakening the position} (39... Rc2 $142 $19 {a pity that Black didn't try this}

Yeah,I know,Deep Fritz 11 says that I am a sore patzer but I don't give a damn :wink:
Cheers,
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Frank Quisinsky
Posts: 6808
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:16 pm
Location: Gutweiler, Germany
Full name: Frank Quisinsky

Re: A long time an other topic ... sorry !!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Weal,

yes, yes ...
The only problem I have is a Netbook for a friend and the configuration I am working.

Looking tomorrow night in the games :-)
Your games with Fritz 12 GUI, Game Analyzer and Scid.
I will kill four birds with one stone faster as a QuadCore.

Have a nice evening.
Of course, the others too ...

Best
Frank
tano-urayoan
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Re: Frayer's opinion expressed at the Rybka forum....

Post by tano-urayoan »

Steve B wrote:Who is Frayer?
was he part of the Rybka team and now disillusioned or just an unhappy customer?

this message of his seems to be posted on all of the forums so i am just asking out of curiosity

Regards
Steve
http://www.frayerchess.com/