Do I really need Naum 4?

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Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by tomgdrums » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:27 am

Does Naum 4 give different analysis then Rybka 3 or Shredder 12? Is it worth getting at this point?

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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by M ANSARI » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:37 am

It plays a little differently and has different material balance evaluation on some critical positions. Most notable difference I noticed is that it evaluates a bishop pair much higher than Rybka 3 and thus gets a lof of nice wins due to that. It is overall quite a bit weaker than R3 though, but it gets some good hits.

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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by Eelco de Groot » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:06 am

Hello Tom, I thought you were one of the Clint Eastwoods or the Ronald Reagans who have joined us and I get a bit suspicious whether those are actually their real names. Especially Ronald Reagan, but maybe there are a lot of those in the US. And why not. Clint Eastwood would also be a great candidate for the moderator elections here. But I recognize now your nickname from the Rybka Forum, the drums teacher! Welcome to CCC and my apologies to your president!

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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by Rolf » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:29 am

I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
-Popper and Lakatos are good but I'm stuck on Leibowitz

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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:31 pm

Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
No it's not since a while now Rolf....
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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by Rolf » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:32 pm

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
No it's not since a while now Rolf....
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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:35 pm

Rolf wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
No it's not since a while now Rolf....
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My grandma but you already know that....
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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by tomgdrums » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:02 pm

M ANSARI wrote:It plays a little differently and has different material balance evaluation on some critical positions. Most notable difference I noticed is that it evaluates a bishop pair much higher than Rybka 3 and thus gets a lof of nice wins due to that. It is overall quite a bit weaker than R3 though, but it gets some good hits.
Thanks for the help! I may get it after all. I really enjoy checking out the different options the engines can come up with.

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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by tomgdrums » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:03 pm

Eelco de Groot wrote:Hello Tom, I thought you were one of the Clint Eastwoods or the Ronald Reagans who have joined us and I get a bit suspicious whether those are actually their real names. Especially Ronald Reagan, but maybe there are a lot of those in the US. And why not. Clint Eastwood would also be a great candidate for the moderator elections here. But I recognize now your nickname from the Rybka Forum, the drums teacher! Welcome to CCC and my apologies to your president!

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Thanks for the welcome!! It is fun to be here. Incidentally why did my name make you think of Clint Eastwood?

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Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Post by tomgdrums » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:03 pm

Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
Why do you say that Naum isn't interesting?

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