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Thomas Mayer
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What is this ?

Post by Thomas Mayer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:05 pm

Hi,

someone in the CSS-Forum put my nose on something new:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... Track=true

does anyone know which engine that is ? Or does the Robbolito thingy become a completely different story now ? And what is Rybka 3.1 ?

Greets, Thomas

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Re: What is this ?

Post by Jim Ablett » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:10 pm

Thomas Mayer wrote:Hi,

someone in the CSS-Forum put my nose on something new:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... Track=true

does anyone know which engine that is ? Or does the Robbolito thingy become a completely different story now ? And what is Rybka 3.1 ?

Greets, Thomas
I didn't know Ruffian was a Rybka beater! :)
http://tobychess.com/tobychess_2_006.htm

Jim.

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Re: What is this ?

Post by Volker Pittlik » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:13 pm

Thomas Mayer wrote:...

does anyone know which engine that is ?...
Not really but it stinks like something a dog leaves in the road..


vp

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Re: What is this ?

Post by Thomas Mayer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:17 pm

Jim Ablett wrote:
Thomas Mayer wrote:Hi,

someone in the CSS-Forum put my nose on something new:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... Track=true

does anyone know which engine that is ? Or does the Robbolito thingy become a completely different story now ? And what is Rybka 3.1 ?
I didn't know Ruffian was a Rybka beater! :)
http://tobychess.com/tobychess_2_006.htm
well, they talk about a completely new engine, anyway, e.g. Ruffian is over 450k in size, so it seems to be something different. Because I couldn't find the proposed pgn-file on their website I emailed them via eBay, let's see what I get as an answer...

Greets, Thomas

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Re: What is this ?

Post by Thomas Mayer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:20 pm

Volker Pittlik wrote:
Thomas Mayer wrote:...

does anyone know which engine that is ?...
Not really but it stinks like something a dog leaves in the road..
Hi Volker,

well, in fact I agree, but I mean, this is a real company selling _something_. In older incarnations of his database proggy, Ruffian was included, so it's likely that he has some contacts in the computer chess scene because I doubt that you would find a lot people which know about ruffian but have never heard from CCC. IF that is something Robbolitoish then I wonder what Marx or Lenin would think about it... ;)

Greets, Thomas

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Re: What is this ?

Post by gerold » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:39 pm

Thomas Mayer wrote:Hi,

someone in the CSS-Forum put my nose on something new:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... Track=true

does anyone know which engine that is ? Or does the Robbolito thingy become a completely different story now ? And what is Rybka 3.1 ?

Greets, Thomas
Make room at the top. :) :) :)

Gerold.

P.S. Where is the free trial version. :)

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Re: What is this ?

Post by WuShock » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:51 pm

I am not associated with the company , outside of being a customer. I did order a copy a couple days ago , and am eagerly awaiting it's arrival. About 3 months ago I did meet the owner of the company at a local K-12 tournament. He travels around to some of the tournaments selling his chess products. After he told me about his new engine , I quickly went home and brought my laptop back for a quick match. In a small 30 game bullet test it did defeat Rybka 3. I asked him at the time if this had anything to do with Robboxxx , and he claimed no knowledge of Robbo. He is also not the programmer though , somebody else does that..... And I'm not clear whether Toby-Tal is only single core , or MP....... When I talked to him 3 months ago he said the first incarnation might be only SP...... I guess I'll find out in a few days........ Maybe I can post some results in a week or two.......

Maybe it's all BS , maybe it's a new paradigm ??

WuShock

Go Shocks !!

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Re: What is this ?

Post by Thomas Mayer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:03 pm

Hi Tom,

very interesting. Of course one should be careful with any prejudices.
So at least you can confirm that the product itself exists. At least the given size of 120k for the engine is smaller then the .exe of Robbolito I know, but of course this doesn't mean anything, with different compiler / optimisation options you might get smaller exe files. We will see how this continues.

Greets, Thomas

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Re: What is this ?

Post by Volker Pittlik » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:04 pm

Thomas Mayer wrote:...IF that is something Robbolitoish then I wonder what Marx or Lenin would think about it... ;)

Greets, Thomas
Hm, maybe we can find out!

We can take the Robbo's source, change the name and UCI-ID, somehow encrypt the executable so no layman can see what it is and sell it.
We are both known in computer chess, so everyone will trust us and we will be very rich very fast !11!! 8-)

Then we will see how the commies will react!

Please keep this confidential so our secret plans will not be compromised!

Conspirator greetings!

vp

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Re: What is this ?

Post by mariaclara » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:11 pm

:roll: hmmmmmm...............

No prob, won't be long before

that commercial engines'

:arrow: hound dog will track this down

& give us more info.

:wink: :roll:
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................. Mu Shin ..........................

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