CCT 12 Predictions: Complete list

[CRoberson]

I created this list by starting with the CCRL list and my experiences against the ones not on the CCRL list. After that, I adjusted for hardware and experience. Lots of things fall under experience.

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 1. Shredder
 2. Sjeng
 3. Hiarcs
 4. Thinker
 5. Junior
 6. Spark
 7. Crafty
 8. Komodo
 9. Ikarus
10. Ktulu
11. Scorpio
12. Hannibal
13. Diep
14. TheBaron
15. Now
16. Telepath
17. Deuterium
18. Berta
19. Daydreamer
20. Gaviota
21. Dirty
22. Danasah
23. Tinker
24. Butcher
25. Amyan
26. Mathmoi
27. Jabba
28. Almond

For those of you who haven't written a chess program and tested in automated tournaments and competed in live tournaments, experience makes a difference. There is a big difference between live tournaments and automated events.

Of course, "luck happens" in every live tournament!

[swami]

My predictions:

1. Shredder
2. Sjeng
3. Deep Junior
4. Komodo
5. Hiarcs

[M ANSARI]

I think DS will do very well as will Shredder. As for Junior I am not so sure, I always had some suspicion that the engine that Junior plays in tournaments is not the same engine that is being sold ... maybe the author does not release his full strength version for sale. If Junior is playing with the commercially released version then it will disappoint. My guess is that DS will be first and Shredder a close second with third being contested by several other engines but most likely to be won by Hiarcs. If a Komodo MP version is available at the start of the tourney things could be very different of course. Even on single core Komodo can win a game against any of the other MP engines, but it will be very susceptible to tactical oversights due to its inferior depth of search.

[Werewolf]

I always had some suspicion that the engine that Junior plays in tournaments is not the same engine that is being sold ...

YES. I totally agree with you, I'd come to this conclusion some time ago.

[hokaro]

everyone is underestimating Ktulu i see

[alpha123]

Based on my own test tournaments and the hardware differences:

1. Shredder
2. Deep Sjeng
3. HIARCS
4. Spark
5. Thinker

And Junior probably in the top 10 somewhere.

HIARCS 13 is almost out, keep in mind..... and don't underestimate Skulltrails......

I couldn't decide between Thinker and Spark for 4-5, so I looked at CCRL 40/40, where Spark is like 6 points better .

Peter

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Based on my own test tournaments and the hardware differences:

1. Shredder
2. Deep Sjeng
3. HIARCS
4. Spark
5. Thinker

And Junior probably in the top 10 somewhere.

HIARCS 13 is almost out, keep in mind..... and don't underestimate Skulltrails......

I couldn't decide between Thinker and Spark for 4-5, so I looked at CCRL 40/40, where Spark is like 6 points better .

Peter

Spark will play with a special custom opening book so I'd chear for it
Dr.D

[alpha123]

Hm, that will probably add a few Elo.

BTW, is this spark-0.3a or a new, development version of Spark?

Same thing with Komodo, is it a new Komodo, or Komodo64 1.0 (JA?)?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see....,
Peter

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Hm, that will probably add a few Elo.

BTW, is this spark-0.3a or a new, development version of Spark?

Same thing with Komodo, is it a new Komodo, or Komodo64 1.0 (JA?)?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see....,
Peter

It's certainly a modified Spark as it can use the opening book format of Bright as the public one doesn't....
Dr.D

[swami]

Hm, that will probably add a few Elo.

BTW, is this spark-0.3a or a new, development version of Spark?

Same thing with Komodo, is it a new Komodo, or Komodo64 1.0 (JA?)?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see....,
Peter

Development version of Spark with 30 elo improvement on search/eval fine tuning. Also does have support for the book apparently.