I hope I'm not being a total noob and asking an obvious question that's been covered everywhere, but here it is:
Is the SSDF still alive?
Thanks!
Is the SSDF still alive?
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Is the SSDF still alive?
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Re: Is the SSDF still alive?
Here is a fairly recent post in the tournament forum:lmader wrote:I hope I'm not being a total noob and asking an obvious question that's been covered everywhere, but here it is:
Is the SSDF still alive?
Thanks!
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 37&t=33411
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http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... light=ssdflmader wrote:I hope I'm not being a total noob and asking an obvious question that's been covered everywhere, but here it is:
Is the SSDF still alive?
Thanks!
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Re: Is the SSDF still alive?
Hello Lar,lmader wrote:I hope I'm not being a total noob and asking an obvious question that's been covered everywhere, but here it is:
Is the SSDF still alive?
Thanks!
Tony Hedlund reported as recently as April 2 results of tests between Deep Fritz 12 and Naum.
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=
I value the SSDF's tests above all others.
After all, the SSDF tests at standard chess time-controls while the other groups test at shorter time controls. Yes, the other groups obtain greater quantity as a result, but lack standard time-control quality. Since standard tournament chess is played at "standard time-controls", then that's the real way to test - with standard time-controls. Testing with non-standard conditions requires one to assume standard results from non-standard data. So, most groups generate quantity at the expense of quality standard conditions, while the SSDF generates "real life" results but less quantity of data.
The SSDF performs statistical analysis to determine that they've generated adequate game quantity for their rating results to be valid within stated bounds.
All the best,
Steve
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Re: Is the SSDF still alive?
It is worth adding they also test with ponder on (a huge difference), and upgraded their hardware to include quad-core machines.Stephen Ham wrote:Hello Lar,lmader wrote:I hope I'm not being a total noob and asking an obvious question that's been covered everywhere, but here it is:
Is the SSDF still alive?
Thanks!
Tony Hedlund reported as recently as April 2 results of tests between Deep Fritz 12 and Naum.
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=
I value the SSDF's tests above all others.
After all, the SSDF tests at standard chess time-controls while the other groups test at shorter time controls. Yes, the other groups obtain greater quantity as a result, but lack standard time-control quality. Since standard tournament chess is played at "standard time-controls", then that's the real way to test - with standard time-controls. Testing with non-standard conditions requires one to assume standard results from non-standard data. So, most groups generate quantity at the expense of quality standard conditions, while the SSDF generates "real life" results but less quantity of data.
The SSDF performs statistical analysis to determine that they've generated adequate game quantity for their rating results to be valid within stated bounds.
All the best,
Steve
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Re: Is the SSDF still alive?
Awesome, thank you all!
Likewise! I love that SSDF juicy testing goodness. It's the foie gras of rating lists, the Large Hadron Collider of testing, the... ummm... Jagermeister of it all.Stephen Ham wrote:I value the SSDF's tests above all others.
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Re: Is the SSDF still alive?
Hi Lar,lmader wrote:Awesome, thank you all!
Likewise! I love that SSDF juicy testing goodness. It's the foie gras of rating lists, the Large Hadron Collider of testing, the... ummm... Jagermeister of it all.Stephen Ham wrote:I value the SSDF's tests above all others.
Yup! They're the top dog, the chief honcho, the big kahuna, and the head cheese of rating testers.
Lar, please tell me about yourself. Your name doesn't sound Mexican.
All the best,
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Re: Is the SSDF still alive?
I could not find it in the links mentioned but Tony Hedlund recently posted in one of the Rybka sub-forums that he moved most SSDF results from his old to his new site:lmader wrote:I hope I'm not being a total noob and asking an obvious question that's been covered everywhere, but here it is:
Is the SSDF still alive?
Thanks!
http://privat.bahnhof.se/wb432434/welcome.htm
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Re: Is the SSDF still alive?
Ok, now this is extremely interesting/helpful!
True, true. I'm from the U.S., of Swedish/German ancestry, but currently living in Mexico.Stephen Ham wrote:Lar, please tell me about yourself. Your name doesn't sound Mexican.
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