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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by Guenther » Sat May 15, 2010 2:25 pm

AdminX wrote:
Damir wrote: Junior did not have a chance, had it not been for Fire's hardware unstability. When your engine restarts something like 3-4 times in a row, due to too much overclock. You are doomed to lose the game...
Another issue is the book. I heared that Fire played with no book at all.
And who's fault is that? Give credit where it's due. :roll: Junior won the game, and it was a nice one, no matter what the reason. :wink:
The Firefanboys will believe what they want ;-)
Of course the outcome of the game had nothing do with whatever
book moves. Even DJ thought it was down -0.40 around the early
30ies moves.

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by Damir » Sat May 15, 2010 2:27 pm

Dr.Ex wrote:Nonsense, these are clearly book moves up to move 17.
Junior's book yes, but where do you see here what book Fire 1.3 used ?

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by Guenther » Sat May 15, 2010 2:29 pm

Damir wrote:
Dr.Ex wrote:Nonsense, these are clearly book moves up to move 17.
Junior's book yes, but where do you see here what book Fire 1.3 used ?
?? Because we have the pgn file and he can read it(you cannot obviously?).
=> hint time usage...

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by Robert Flesher » Sat May 15, 2010 2:30 pm

Damir wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:Deep Junior is just 1/2 point behind Rybak in the Thüringen 2010 tournament. This is a beautiful game vs Fire 1.3.

[Event "Thüringen 2010"]
[Site "Triebes"]
[Date "2010.05.14"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Deep Junior 11.2 UCI"]
[Black "Fire 1.3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C91"]
[PlyCount "195"]
[EventDate "2010.05.??"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[TimeControl "9000"]

{1024MB, Junior11.ctg, Q-9550} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} e5 {10} 2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {
4} 3. Bb5 {0.00/0 0} a6 {3} 4. Ba4 {0.00/0 0} Nf6 {3} 5. O-O {0.00/0 0} Be7 {4}
6. Re1 {0.00/0 0} b5 {3} 7. Bb3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {3} 8. c3 {0.00/0 0} O-O {5} 9.
d4 {0.00/0 0} Bg4 {5} 10. d5 {0.00/0 0} Na5 {4} 11. Bc2 {0.00/0 0} c6 {4} 12.
h3 {0.00/0 0} Bxf3 {4} 13. Qxf3 {0.00/0 0} cxd5 {5} 14. exd5 {0.00/0 0} Nc4 {4}
15. Nd2 {0.00/0 0} Nb6 {4} 16. Nf1 {0.00/0 0} Nbxd5 {4} 17. Ng3 {0.00/0 0} Re8
{4} 18. Bg5 {0.27/20 259} h6 {167} 19. Bxf6 {0.31/21 108} Nxf6 {356} 20. Bb3 {
0.30/23 0} g6 {(Lf8) 179} 21. Rad1 {0.31/21 498} Kg7 {268} 22. Ne4 {0.24/21 0}
Ra7 {(Tb8) 132} 23. a4 {0.26/20 248} bxa4 {(Tf8) 139} 24. Bxa4 {0.13/20 241}
Rf8 {747} 25. Nxf6 {-0.02/21 0} Bxf6 {138} 26. Bc6 {-0.01/22 1274} Qb8 {
(Lg5) 66} 27. Re2 {0.03/20 119} Be7 {(Lg5) 461} 28. b4 {-0.10/21 427} f5 {
(Tc7) 164} 29. Ra2 {-0.01/21 139} Rc8 {11} 30. Bd5 {-0.37/23 520} e4 {198} 31.
Qe3 {-0.42/22 171} Bg5 {(Tac7) 15} 32. Qe1 {-0.41/20 153} Qb6 {15} 33. g3 {
-0.40/20 113} e3 {181} 34. Rd3 {-0.40/20 0} Re7 {51} 35. f4 {-0.37/21 133} Bf6
{12} 36. Re2 {-0.30/20 101} Rec7 {60} 37. Rc2 {-0.25/20 33} Re8 {(Kh7) 126} 38.
Re2 {-0.21/21 215} Rce7 {12} 39. c4 {-0.10/23 147} Rb8 {(g5) 42} 40. Rb3 {
-0.09/21 142} Kh8 {(Dd4) 267} 41. Kf1 {-0.09/23 144} Rbe8 {145} 42. h4 {
-0.07/24 104} h5 {(Kg7) 145} 43. Rd3 {0.00/26 128} Kg7 {(Kh7) 216} 44. Kg2 {
-0.01/25 196} Kh6 {(Kh7) 58} 45. Kf1 {-0.01/26 74} Bd4 {(Kh7) 137} 46. Qd1 {
-0.01/24 85} Bh8 {164} 47. Qe1 {-0.01/24 0} Bf6 {(Kh7) 64} 48. Rb3 {
-0.01/25 172} Bd4 {(Kh7) 169} 49. Qd1 {-0.01/24 66} Bh8 {(Kg7) 11} 50. Bf3 {
0.00/22 74} Rc8 {259} 51. Qd5 {0.00/23 0} Bf6 {(Lg7) 359} 52. Rc2 {0.01/20 61}
Rec7 {358} 53. Qd3 {0.01/22 0} a5 {(Tb8) 111} 54. b5 {0.00/22 97} Bd4 {141} 55.
Ra3 {0.01/23 0} Bc5 {(Kh7) 11} 56. Raa2 {0.00/22 174} Bb4 {105} 57. Bd5 {
-0.02/22 0} Bd2 {142} 58. Qe2 {-0.05/21 28} Ra7 {(Dd4) 175} 59. Rcb2 {
-0.01/20 148} a4 {(Tb8) 99} 60. Qd3 {0.19/21 46} Ra5 {(Kh7) 489} 61. Rb1 {
0.23/20 80} Rc7 {(Kg7) 207} 62. Ke2 {0.56/21 90} Rc8 {(Taa7) 179} 63. Qa3 {
0.77/21 57} Rf8 {235} 64. Qb2 {1.33/23 84} Kh7 {(Dc5) 159} 65. Ra3 {1.33/21 49}
Kh6 {99} 66. Rba1 {1.32/23 0} Qa7 {(Dc7) 75} 67. R3a2 {0.85/24 800} Kh7 {161}
68. Bc6 {0.67/23 371} Rc8 {(Tb8) 125} 69. Ra3 {1.20/21 13} Rc7 {10} 70. Rd3 {
1.20/18 8} Qc5 {(Tg7) 519} 71. Bd5 {1.52/19 18} Rg7 {(Db4) 29} 72. b6 {
1.68/19 12} Qc8 {(Lb4) 12} 73. b7 {2.18/20 31} Qb8 {5} 74. Rb1 {2.18/19 31} Ra6
{(Kh6) 263} 75. c5 {3.88/19 25} Kh6 {57} 76. Qf6 {4.80/20 0} a3 {81} 77. c6 {
5.75/20 0} Kh7 {(a2) 337} 78. Qe6 {7.03/20 35} a2 {182} 79. Ra1 {8.43/21 0} Ba5
{247} 80. Rxa2 {8.91/23 0} Qa7 {79} 81. Qc8 {9.40/22 58} Bc7 {10} 82. Rxa6 {
9.88/20 43} Qc5 {9} 83. Bb3 {10.36/19 11} Qc1 {62} 84. Rxe3 {13.21/20 0} Qb2+ {
55} 85. Kf1 {18.36/17 56} Qc1+ {186} 86. Kf2 {#14/20 0} Qh1 {(Db2+) 139} 87.
Ra8 {#13/17 5} Qh2+ {7} 88. Ke1 {#11/19 18} Ba5+ {20} 89. Rxa5 {#10/20 0} Qg1+
{10} 90. Kd2 {#9/23 17} Qf2+ {8} 91. Re2 {#9/21 5} Qd4+ {6} 92. Kc2 {#9/21 0}
Qb6 {39} 93. b8=Q {#6/22 0} Qxb8 {12} 94. Qxb8 {#5/24 0} Kh6 {(d5) 8} 95. Qh8+
{#4/25 11} Rh7 {5} 96. Qf8+ {#3/39 6} Rg7 {5} 97. Ra7 {#2/50 9} Kh7 {(d5) 14}
98. Qxg7# {#1/46 11} 1-0
Junior did not have a chance, had it not been for Fire's hardware unstability. When your engine restarts something like 3-4 times in a row, due to too much overclock. You are doomed to lose the game...
Another issue is the book. I heared that Fire played with no book at all.

Maybe, just for once open your mind to the chess that was played and not the result or who played it. If Fire had won the game in this fashion, my post would be the same. When people can speak only of the results it makes me laugh. "Talkchess" is the name of the place, therefore, I posted about the game, "chess" . Next time, perhaps, I will post, " great computer game". Then maybe, the chessplayers who enjoy the game of chess for its complex beauty will take a look, and hopefully excluding the people who care not or are to weak to realize a beautiful game ?!
I won't point any fingers. 8-)

kingliveson

Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by kingliveson » Sat May 15, 2010 5:43 pm

Is it true that the hardware Fire was on crashed a few times during the tournament because of high unstable OC? This game is a little interesting and am surprised Fire lost.

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IvanHoe 9.63b x64:

40...Bd4 41.c5 dxc5 42.bxc5 Qxc5 43.Rxb8 Qxd5 44.Qb4 
  =/+  (-0.67)   Depth: 6   00:00:02  4kN

40...Bd4 41.c5 dxc5 42.bxc5 Qxc5 43.Rxb8 Qxd5 44.Qb4 
  =/+  (-0.67)   Depth: 6   00:00:02  11kN

40...Bd4 41.c5 Qb5 42.Qd1 dxc5 43.bxc5 Qxc5 44.Rxb8 Qxd5 
  =/+  (-0.64)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  12kN

40...Bd4 41.c5 Qb5 42.Qd1 dxc5 43.bxc5 Qxc5 44.Rxb8 Qxd5 
  =/+  (-0.64)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  15kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Kg2 Kg6 43.Qc1 Bg7 44.fxg5 hxg5 
  =/+  (-0.60)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  26kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Kg2 Kg6 43.Qc1 Bg7 44.fxg5 hxg5 
  =/+  (-0.60)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  34kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Kg2 gxf4 43.gxf4 Kh7 44.Kh2 h5 45.Qg3 Rg7 
  =/+  (-0.59)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  62kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Kg2 gxf4 43.gxf4 Kh7 44.Kh2 h5 45.Qg3 Rg7 
  =/+  (-0.59)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  72kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Kg2 gxf4 43.gxf4 Kh7 44.Kh2 h5 45.Qg3 Rg7 
  =/+  (-0.59)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  77kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Kg2 gxf4 43.gxf4 Kh7 44.Kh2 h5 45.Qg3 Rg7 
  =/+  (-0.59)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  127kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Ra3 Bd4 43.h4 Rb8 44.Rd3 Kg6 45.Qd1 Bg7 
  =/+  (-0.55)   Depth: 11   00:00:02  206kN

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Ra3 Bd4 43.h4 Rb8 44.Rd3 Kg6 45.Qd1 Bg7 
  =/+  (-0.55)   Depth: 11   00:00:02  442kN, tb=3

40...Rbe8 41.Rd3 g5 42.Ra3 Bd4 43.h4 Rb8 44.Rd3 Kg6 45.Qd1 Bg7 
  =/+  (-0.47 --)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  1456kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qd1 Bh8 44.Qc1 Bf6 45.Qe1 g5 46.Qf1 
  =/+  (-0.49)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  1475kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qd1 Bh8 44.Qc1 Bf6 45.Qe1 g5 46.Qf1 
  =/+  (-0.49)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  1480kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Ra3 Rb8 44.Rd3 Rc8 45.Qd1 Bg7 46.Qc1 Rce8 47.Qa3 Bd4 48.Rd1 Rc8 49.Qb3 
  =/+  (-0.48)   Depth: 13   00:00:02  1582kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Ra3 Rb8 44.Rd3 Rc8 45.Qd1 Bg7 46.Qc1 Rce8 47.Qa3 Bd4 48.Rd1 Rc8 49.Qb3 
  =/+  (-0.48)   Depth: 13   00:00:02  1706kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qf1 Rc8 44.Qd1 Bg7 45.Qc1 Rce8 46.Qe1 Bf6 47.Qc1 g5 48.Qf1 Rg7 49.Kg1 
  =/+  (-0.51)   Depth: 14   00:00:02  1870kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qf1 Rc8 44.Qd1 Bg7 45.Qc1 Rce8 46.Qe1 Bf6 47.Qc1 g5 48.Qf1 Rg7 49.Kg1 
  =/+  (-0.51)   Depth: 14   00:00:02  2031kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qf1 Rc8 44.Qd1 Bg7 45.Qc1 Rce8 46.Qe1 Bf6 47.Qc1 g5 48.Qf1 Rg7 49.Kg1 
  =/+  (-0.51)   Depth: 15   00:00:02  2289kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qf1 Rc8 44.Qd1 Bg7 45.Qc1 Rce8 46.Qe1 Bf6 47.Qc1 g5 48.Qf1 Rg7 49.Kg1 
  =/+  (-0.51)   Depth: 15   00:00:02  2610kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qf1 Rc8 44.Qd1 Bf6 45.Qc1 Rce8 46.Qe1 g5 47.Qf1 Rg7 48.Kg1 
  =/+  (-0.51)   Depth: 16   00:00:02  3043kN, tb=4

40...Rbe8 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd3 Kh7 43.Qf1 Rc8 44.Qd1 Bf6 45.Qc1 Rce8 46.Qe1 g5 47.Qf1 Rg7 48.Kg1 
  =/+  (-0.51)   Depth: 16   00:00:03  3829kN, tb=5

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.47)   Depth: 17   00:00:04  11049kN, tb=24

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.47)   Depth: 17   00:00:04  14033kN, tb=25

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qc1 h5 44.Qd1 Bf6 45.Qe1 Kg7 46.Ra3 Bd4 47.Rd3 Kh6 48.Qd1 Bh8 49.Qc1 
  =/+  (-0.45)   Depth: 18   00:00:05  17588kN, tb=52

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qc1 h5 44.Qd1 Bf6 45.Qe1 Kg7 46.Ra3 Bd4 47.Rd3 Kh6 48.Qd1 Bh8 49.Qc1 
  =/+  (-0.45)   Depth: 18   00:00:06  20964kN, tb=112

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.45)   Depth: 19   00:00:06  24417kN, tb=127

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.45)   Depth: 19   00:00:07  27353kN, tb=130

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qc1 h5 44.Qc2 Rc8 45.Qd1 Bg7 46.Qb3 Rce8 47.Qa4 h4 48.gxh4 Rb8 49.Qa3 Bd4 50.Qa4 Rc8 51.Qd1 Bg7 52.Qa4 Kh6 

  =/+  (-0.44)   Depth: 20   00:00:09  41152kN, tb=316
40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qc1 h5 44.Qc2 Rc8 45.Qd1 Bg7 46.Qb3 Rce8 47.Qa4 h4 48.gxh4 Rb8 49.Qa3 Bd4 50.Qa4 Rc8 51.Qd1 Bg7 52.Qa4 Kh6 
  =/+  (-0.44)   Depth: 20   00:00:11  55302kN, tb=694

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qc1 h5 44.Qd1 Bh8 45.Qe1 Bf6 46.Bf3 Kh6 47.Bd5 Bg7 48.Ra3 Bh8 49.Rd3 Kh7 50.Bf3 Bf6 51.Bd5 Kh6 52.Ra3 Kg7 53.Rd3 Kh7 
  =/+  (-0.44)   Depth: 21   00:00:15  78962kN, tb=7532

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qc1 h5 44.Qd1 Bh8 45.Qe1 Bf6 46.Bf3 Kh6 47.Bd5 Bg7 48.Ra3 Bh8 49.Rd3 Kh7 50.Bf3 Bf6 51.Bd5 Kh6 52.Ra3 Kg7 53.Rd3 Kh7 
  =/+  (-0.44)   Depth: 21   00:00:17  89124kN, tb=7678

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 22   00:00:22  121mN, tb=18943

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 22   00:00:29  159mN, tb=20158

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 h5 42.Kg2 Rh8 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rhe8 45.Kh2 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh6 47.Ra3 g5 48.fxg5+ Kxg5 49.Qb1 Rb8 50.Qd3 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 23   00:00:40  230mN, tb=24101

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 h5 42.Kg2 Rh8 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rhe8 45.Kh2 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh6 47.Ra3 g5 48.fxg5+ Kxg5 49.Qb1 Rb8 50.Qd3 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 23   00:00:46  265mN, tb=25544

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 h5 42.Kg2 Rh8 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rhe8 45.Kh2 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh6 47.Ra3 Bd4 48.Rd3 Kh7 49.Qd1 Bh8 50.Qb3 Kh6 51.Qa3 Bd4 52.Qa4 h4 53.gxh4 Rc8 54.b5 axb5 55.cxb5 Bc5 56.Qa6 Qb8 57.Rd1 Ra7 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 24   00:00:53  314mN, tb=28689

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 h5 42.Kg2 Rh8 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rhe8 45.Kh2 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh6 47.Ra3 Bd4 48.Rd3 Kh7 49.Qd1 Bh8 50.Qb3 Kh6 51.Qa3 Bd4 52.Qa4 h4 53.gxh4 Rc8 54.b5 axb5 55.cxb5 Bc5 56.Qa6 Qb8 57.Rd1 Ra7 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 24   00:01:02  371mN, tb=31779

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 h5 42.Kg2 Rh8 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rhe8 45.Kh2 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh6 47.Kh2 Bd4 48.Kg2 Rc8 49.Rc2 Rcc7 50.Qd1 Bh8 51.Re2 Rc8 52.Qb3 Rce8 53.Qa3 Bd4 54.Qa4 h4 55.gxh4 Bf6 56.Bc6 Rd8 57.c5 dxc5 58.Rxd8 Qxd8 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 25   00:01:27  517mN, tb=91845

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 h5 42.Kg2 Rh8 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rhe8 45.Kh2 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh6 47.Kh2 Bd4 48.Kg2 Rc8 49.Rc2 Rcc7 50.Qd1 Bh8 51.Re2 Rc8 52.Qb3 Rce8 53.Qa3 Bd4 54.Qa4 h4 55.gxh4 Bf6 56.Bc6 Rd8 57.c5 dxc5 58.Rxd8 Qxd8 
  =/+  (-0.43)   Depth: 25   00:01:47  636mN, tb=100371

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.35 --)   Depth: 26   00:05:08  1877mN, tb=439386

40...Bd4 41.Kg2 Rc8 42.Qd1 h5 43.Rd3 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rce8 45.Kf3 Kh7 46.Kg2 Bg7 47.Rb3 Kh8 48.Rd3 Bf6 49.Kf3 Kg7 50.Rdxe3 Rxe3+ 51.Rxe3 Rxe3+ 52.Qxe3 Qxb4 53.g4 fxg4+ 54.hxg4 hxg4+ 55.Kxg4 Qc5 56.Qe8 
  =/+  (-0.36)   Depth: 26   00:05:34  2039mN, tb=461500

40...Bd4 41.Kg2 Rc8 42.Qd1 h5 43.Rd3 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rce8 45.Kf3 Kh7 46.Kg2 Bg7 47.Rb3 Kh8 48.Rd3 Bf6 49.Kf3 Kg7 50.Rdxe3 Rxe3+ 51.Rxe3 Rxe3+ 52.Qxe3 Qxb4 53.g4 fxg4+ 54.hxg4 hxg4+ 55.Kxg4 Qc5 56.Qe8 
  =/+  (-0.36)   Depth: 26   00:05:34  2040mN, tb=461501

40...Bd4 41.Kg2 Rc8 42.Qd1 h5 43.Rd3 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rce8 45.Bf3 
  =/+  (-0.36)   Depth: 27   00:08:32  3156mN, tb=767863

40...Bd4 41.Kg2 Rc8 42.Qd1 h5 43.Rd3 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rce8 45.Bf3 
  =/+  (-0.36)   Depth: 27   00:09:48  3631mN, tb=853072

40...Bd4 41.Kg2 a5 42.b5 Bc5 43.Ra2 Ra7 44.Re2 Re8 45.Qa1+ Kh7 46.Qa4 Rf8 47.Rb1 Bd4 48.Rd1 Re7 49.h4 h5 
  =/+  (-0.35)   Depth: 28   00:17:51  6630mN, tb=1923109

40...Bd4 41.Kg2 a5 42.b5 Bc5 43.Ra2 Ra7 44.Re2 Re8 45.Qa1+ Kh7 46.Qa4 Rf8 47.Rb1 Bd4 48.Rd1 Re7 49.h4 h5 
  =/+  (-0.35)   Depth: 28   00:22:37  8453mN, tb=2462530

40...Bd4 41.Kg2 a5 42.b5 Bc5 43.Ra2 Ra7 44.Re2 Re8 45.Qa1+ Kh7 46.Qa4 Rf8 47.Rb1 Bd4 48.Rd1 Re7 49.h4 h5 50.Rd3 Rfe8 51.Qd1 Bc5 52.Qa1 Rg7 53.Qa4 Ra7 54.Bc6 Rc8 55.Bd5 Rf8 
  =/+  (-0.27 --)   Depth: 29   00:49:16  18543mN, tb=7755907

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qd1 Bg7 44.Qe1 Bh8 45.Kf3 Bd4 46.Qd1 Bg7 47.Qa4 Rb8 48.Rdxe3 Qxb4 49.Qxb4 Rxe3+ 
  =/+  (-0.27)   Depth: 29   00:56:50  21367mN, tb=9734950

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rbe8 42.Kg2 Kh7 43.Qd1 Bg7 44.Qe1 Bh8 45.Kf3 Bd4 46.Qd1 Bg7 47.Qa4 Rb8 48.Rdxe3 Qxb4 49.Qxb4 Rxe3+ 
  =/+  (-0.27)   Depth: 29   00:56:53  21382mN, tb=9742294

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.27)   Depth: 30   01:11:00  26725mN, tb=13411316

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Bf6 42.Rb3 
  =/+  (-0.27)   Depth: 30   01:21:43  30839mN, tb=15917121

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rf8 42.Kg2 h5 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rfe8 45.Kf3 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh8 47.Bf3 Rb8 48.Rdxe3 Rxe3 49.Rxe3 Qxb4 50.Qxb4 Rxb4 51.Re6 Kg7 52.Rxd6 Rxc4 53.Rxa6 Rc2+ 54.Kh1 Bd4 55.Rc6 Rb2 
  =/+  (-0.26)   Depth: 31   02:29:05  56486mN, tb=67066063

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rf8 42.Kg2 h5 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rfe8 45.Kf3 Kh7 46.Kg2 Kh8 47.Bf3 Rb8 48.Rdxe3 Rxe3 49.Rxe3 Qxb4 50.Qxb4 Rxb4 51.Re6 Kg7 52.Rxd6 Rxc4 53.Rxa6 Rc2+ 54.Kh1 Bd4 
  =/+  (-0.26)   Depth: 31   03:05:31  70511mN, tb=77800679

40...Bd4 41.Rd3 Rf8 42.Kg2 h5 43.Qd1 Bf6 44.Qe1 Rfe8 45.Kf3 Kh7 46.g4 hxg4+ 47.hxg4 fxg4+ 48.Kxg4 Kg7 49.Kf3 Rh8 
  =  (-0.18 --)   Depth: 32   09:13:25  210818mN, tb=383187418
[Event "Thüringen 2010"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.05.14"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Junior"]
[Black "Fire"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C91"]
[PlyCount "169"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3
O-O 9. d4 Bg4 10. d5 Na5 11. Bc2 c6 12. h3 Bxf3 13. Qxf3 cxd5 14. exd5 Nc4 15.
Nd2 Nb6 16. Nf1 Nbxd5 17. Ng3 Re8 18. Bg5 h6 19. Bxf6 Nxf6 20. Bb3 g6 21. Rad1
Kg7 22. Ne4 Ra7 23. a4 bxa4 24. Bxa4 Rf8 25. Nxf6 Bxf6 26. Bc6 Qb8 27. Re2 Be7
28. b4 f5 29. Ra2 Rc8 30. Bd5 e4 31. Qe3 Bg5 32. Qe1 Qb6 33. g3 e3 34. Rd3 Re7
35. f4 Bf6 36. Re2 Rec7 37. Rc2 Re8 38. Re2 Rce7 39. c4 Rb8 40. Rb3 Kh8 41. Kf1
Rbe8 42. h4 h5 43. Rd3 Kg7 44. Kg2 Kh6 45. Kf1 Bd4 46. Qd1 Bh8 47. Qe1 Bf6 48.
Rb3 Bd4 49. Qd1 Bh8 50. Bf3 Rc8 51. Qd5 Bf6 52. Rc2 Rec7 53. Qd3 a5 54. b5 Bd4
55. Ra3 Bc5 56. Raa2 Bb4 57. Bd5 Bd2 58. Qe2 Ra7 59. Rcb2 a4 60. Qd3 Ra5 61.
Rb1 Rc7 62. Ke2 Rc8 63. Qa3 Rf8 64. Qb2 Kh7 65. Ra3 Kh6 66. Rba1 Qa7 67. R3a2
Kh7 {0.39/22} 68. Bc6 Rc8 69. Ra3 Rc7 70. Rd3 Qc5 71. Bd5 Rg7 72. b6 Qc8 73. b7
Qb8 74. Rb1 Ra6 75. c5 Kh6 76. Qf6 a3 77. c6 Kh7 78. Qe6 a2 79. Ra1 Ba5 80.
Rxa2 Qa7 81. Qc8 Bc7 82. Rxa6 Qc5 83. Bb3 Qc1 84. Rxe3 Qb2+ 85. Kf1 1-0

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by kranium » Sat May 15, 2010 6:52 pm

AdminX wrote:
Damir wrote: Junior did not have a chance, had it not been for Fire's hardware unstability. When your engine restarts something like 3-4 times in a row, due to too much overclock. You are doomed to lose the game...
Another issue is the book. I heared that Fire played with no book at all.
And who's fault is that? Give credit where it's due. :roll: Junior won the game, and it was a nice one, no matter what the reason. :wink:
yes i agree...

it was an absolutely beautiful game by Junior
who really impressed with it's style and creativity...
this was a new un-released version? (11.2a), with some real clear improvements.

9 rounds...anything can happen...that's what makes it so much exciting!
and this particular game is one of the best of the tourney!

not wise to take this engine for granted!

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by George Bodkin » Sat May 15, 2010 8:33 pm

Is junior 11.2 out yet..

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by playjunior » Sat May 15, 2010 9:24 pm

I am a big Junior fan but have an impression that Fire just badly misplayed the game, abandoning several fortress-like setups, maybe because it was actually better and tried to make progress. It overstepped at some point but this is not what a typical Junior victory looks like.

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by kranium » Sat May 15, 2010 9:53 pm

playjunior wrote:I am a big Junior fan but have an impression that Fire just badly misplayed the game, abandoning several fortress-like setups, maybe because it was actually better and tried to make progress. It overstepped at some point but this is not what a typical Junior victory looks like.
yes i think that's an accurate assessment...
one of the many ways to lose!

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Re: This is why I love Junior

Post by kranium » Sat May 15, 2010 10:03 pm

kingliveson wrote:Is it true that the hardware Fire was on crashed a few times during the tournament because of high unstable OC? This game is a little interesting and am surprised Fire lost.
yes, i believe the PC crashed on several occasions...
the only explanation i received was once i had a message forwarded to me by one of the other operators present...

it said:
the 'Fire operator' has "trouble running the game on his hardware because of the heat"

that's all i know...
i assumed naturally, that the system was being over-clocked, and had to be restarted...
what the ramifications were for the progress/quality of the game, etc... i have no idea.

but it doesn't really matter to me...
i think the participants, operators, organizers did a great job...and devoted a lot of time and effort to make this event possible...

overclocking is an acceptable and oft-practiced way to get some extra speed out of the system...
problem is of course, you go just a little too far...famous blue screen of death!

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