Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderators: Harvey Williamson, Dann Corbit, hgm

Forum rules
This textbox is used to restore diagrams posted with the [d] tag before the upgrade.
tano-urayoan
Posts: 638
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:23 pm
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by tano-urayoan » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:05 am

Extract from the Rybka forum:
The Rybka Cluster is a high-performance supercomputer located in Minden/Westfalen, Germany. Combining software and hardware engineering, the Rybka Cluster features exclusive Rybka versions not available to the public running on customized hardware built with the specific goal of providing top Rybka performance at an affordable price.

Starting on February 1, 2011, the Rybka Cluster will be available to the public for the first time under the Rybka Cluster Rental Program.
A Rybka Cluster 40 consists of 40 physical cores and can be rented for 238 Euro (incl. VAT) per day, or 200 Euro (without VAT) per day for customers outside the EU or businesses outside Germany. The minimum continuous Rybka Cluster 40 rental time is 5 days.

A Rybka Cluster 100 consists of 100 physical cores and can be rented for 595 Euro (incl. VAT) per day, or 500 Euro (without VAT) per day for customers outside the EU or businesses outside Germany. The minimum continuous Rybka Cluster 100 rental time is 2 days.

tomgdrums
Posts: 736
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:48 am

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by tomgdrums » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:15 am

tano-urayoan wrote:Extract from the Rybka forum:
The Rybka Cluster is a high-performance supercomputer located in Minden/Westfalen, Germany. Combining software and hardware engineering, the Rybka Cluster features exclusive Rybka versions not available to the public running on customized hardware built with the specific goal of providing top Rybka performance at an affordable price.

Starting on February 1, 2011, the Rybka Cluster will be available to the public for the first time under the Rybka Cluster Rental Program.
A Rybka Cluster 40 consists of 40 physical cores and can be rented for 238 Euro (incl. VAT) per day, or 200 Euro (without VAT) per day for customers outside the EU or businesses outside Germany. The minimum continuous Rybka Cluster 40 rental time is 5 days.

A Rybka Cluster 100 consists of 100 physical cores and can be rented for 595 Euro (incl. VAT) per day, or 500 Euro (without VAT) per day for customers outside the EU or businesses outside Germany. The minimum continuous Rybka Cluster 100 rental time is 2 days.

I won't be a customer.

User avatar
Graham Banks
Posts: 34652
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:52 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by Graham Banks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:21 am

tomgdrums wrote:I won't be a customer.
If I had that sort of money, I'd rather buy a new high end computer! :lol:
gbanksnz at gmail.com

Steve B
Posts: 3697
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:26 pm
Contact:

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by Steve B » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:27 am

Graham Banks wrote:
tomgdrums wrote:I won't be a customer.
If I had that sort of money, I'd rather buy a new high end computer! :lol:
or 500 dedicated computers
:shock: Regards
Steve

User avatar
michiguel
Posts: 6401
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:30 pm
Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA
Contact:

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by michiguel » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:56 am

tano-urayoan wrote:Extract from the Rybka forum:
The Rybka Cluster is a high-performance supercomputer located in Minden/Westfalen, Germany. Combining software and hardware engineering, the Rybka Cluster features exclusive Rybka versions not available to the public running on customized hardware built with the specific goal of providing top Rybka performance at an affordable price.

Starting on February 1, 2011, the Rybka Cluster will be available to the public for the first time under the Rybka Cluster Rental Program.
A Rybka Cluster 40 consists of 40 physical cores and can be rented for 238 Euro (incl. VAT) per day, or 200 Euro (without VAT) per day for customers outside the EU or businesses outside Germany. The minimum continuous Rybka Cluster 40 rental time is 5 days.

A Rybka Cluster 100 consists of 100 physical cores and can be rented for 595 Euro (incl. VAT) per day, or 500 Euro (without VAT) per day for customers outside the EU or businesses outside Germany. The minimum continuous Rybka Cluster 100 rental time is 2 days.
Haiku:

Clone whores in hell dine
Rybka cloud can be rented
Gaviota is mine

Another:

Some Ippos are there
Want to fry a bigger fish
I don't frying care

Miguel

tomgdrums
Posts: 736
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:48 am

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by tomgdrums » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:23 am

Graham Banks wrote:
tomgdrums wrote:I won't be a customer.
If I had that sort of money, I'd rather buy a new high end computer! :lol:

If I had that sort of money I would be vacationing in Hawaii right now not thinking too much about computer chess at all. :)

User avatar
JuLieN
Posts: 2948
Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 10:16 am
Location: Nantes (France)
Contact:

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by JuLieN » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:37 am

tomgdrums wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
tomgdrums wrote:I won't be a customer.
If I had that sort of money, I'd rather buy a new high end computer! :lol:

If I had that sort of money I would be vacationing in Hawaii right now not thinking too much about computer chess at all. :)
Well that's sad... :?
"The only good bug is a dead bug." (Don Dailey)
Image [Blog: http://tinyurl.com/predateur ] [Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/fbpredateur ] [MacEngines: http://tinyurl.com/macengines ]

tomgdrums
Posts: 736
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:48 am

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by tomgdrums » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:04 am

JuLieN wrote:
tomgdrums wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
tomgdrums wrote:I won't be a customer.
If I had that sort of money, I'd rather buy a new high end computer! :lol:

If I had that sort of money I would be vacationing in Hawaii right now not thinking too much about computer chess at all. :)
Well that's sad... :?
No not sad at all! Because when I came back from vacation i would be so refreshed I would enter a gazillion tournaments! :)

User avatar
Peter Skinner
Posts: 1760
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:49 pm
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Full name: Peter Skinner
Contact:

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by Peter Skinner » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:29 am

If Vas can get people to pay that amount, then all the power to him.

Look at how many people whine over the cost of Windows, yet still purchase it...

In all reality, I hope he gets it 100% rented for the next 5 years. I would wish the same for anyone striking out on a venture and trying something that no one has either done or thought about :)

Peter
I got kicked out of Chapters because I moved all the Bible's to the fiction section.

shiv
Posts: 351
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:03 am

Re: Your opinions about the Rybka Cluster Rental

Post by shiv » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:11 am

Hmm, if the goal is for chess analysis and not for playing games, why cant we use a map reduce solution?

Essentially this can mean only one machine (can be multicore) can analyze a unique bunch of positions and machines all output analysis to the shared opening book. This is essentially the idea behind rybka aquarium.

Now the costs are much more reasonable. If we have a 40 machine cluster under Amazon's EC2 environment using their cheapest instance type, it will cost merely 80 cents per hour (each machine is just 2 cents per hour). This is far more affordable.

Chess engines essentially will treat machines as cores in this model.

I know that multi cpu is the way to go for computer chess events. However, for analysis where you have more time on your hands, it makes more sense to scale to more machines and pay less.

Post Reply